(Input wanted) Bone handled Peachseed Sch. Cut. Co.

wannacollect

wannacollect

Joined
Dec 13, 2007
Messages
86
BoneSchCutCo017.jpg


Any info. or input for these knives

BoneSchCutCo021.jpg


BoneSchCutCo027.jpg


BoneSchCutCo031.jpg
 
I have no constructive input on that one, other than to say it's a great looking knife I'd love to have myself!:thumbup:
 
I am not an expert on Schrade bone, but that looks like Rogers Bone to me.
I really really like it!
Charlie what do you think?

Dale
 
They both look like clean old Cut Co knives. Excellent examples of old school craftsmanship. Thanks for showing these Bill.

http://www.collectors-of-schrades-r.us/Catalogs/index.htm

I believe these are the pics from the 1926 catalog. Is the cap lifter blade stamped on yours?

beprep.jpg
ss783B.jpg


I'd like to see that Senator closed to look at the sunken joint construction.
 
Hal,
Wow,1926 huh. Thank you so very much for finding that info. for me. You guys always pull through ! ! Yes Hal the cap lifter blade is stamped very lightly SCHRADE CUT. CO. WALDEN N.Y. as well as the spear pocket blade is also stamped the same.
P.S. I will post a pic of that on here later tonight.
 
It's about time I updated my Schradebone observations. I've been collecting Schrades for a while now, and through comparing the various jigging patterns, I've come to some tentative conclusions. I'm not confident enough to put a date on these, but I am nearing an order of appearance. Here are three pics, the first with 12 knives in groups of three, the second pic enlarges the top row, the third pic enlarges the bottom row.
SchradeBone1.jpg

SchradeBone2.jpg

SchradeBone3.jpg

Left to right, group 1, I think of as "pick bone". It appears to be made by picking or chipping with a narrow gouge or chisel, and seems mostly hand done. You see it on the oldest knives. Next group of three, we see a different type of cut, more machine-like, or machine assisted. I just call this Schrade jigging. It's similar to some older Case jigging, and more orderly than Rodgers jigging.
Left at bottom, the jigging seems to zigzag more, often looking like "basketweave" which is the name I use, and seems appropriate.
Finally, at right bottom, is the jigging known as peachseed. The cutters were thinner, making a finer pattern, resembling the fine-line pores in some peach pits, and looking exceptionally beautiful. This jigging is seen in later knives, for the most part, before and after WWII.
Please comment if you have info to add!
 
338375 said:
Those are both very nice. Gotta love the old ones.
Click to expand...

I always like matching up pictures in the old catalog. Thans so much to Larry V. for putting that site together.

And dang Charlie, that is sure an ugly lot of knives you have there. :D
 
Very cool. I like the smooth profile when the tangs don't lay above the bolsters when the knife is closed.
 
wannacollect, those are two real nice knives you've got there! I don't call that peachseed bone, but that doesn't detract from their beauty. I think that jigging is sized/scaled perfectly to the knives, and they are in tasty condition!! You are a lucky man!!
 
I want to make sure I understand this.
The peach seed bone was a later jigging pattern, perhaps the one in use when Albert Baer bought Schrade?
If this is so, it begins to be a little clearer or me. If I recall correctly, there were some Schrade Walden's that were made with the peach seed jigging pattern.

In all likelihood, wannacollect’s knives were made prior to Schrade's widespread usage of the peach seed pattern, if I understand this right.

Thanks for the update Charlie on the jigging pattern. It would be nice to establish dates for when these different patterns were used. Even a date range would be good. But given Schrade propensity for being unpredictable, I suspect a date range would be the best we could hope for, even in our wildest dreams! :D

Those are excellent knives you have there, wannacollect! :thumbup::thumbup:
I like them!

Dale
 
Charlie, nice layout! I think you're right about those patterns, the pick bone was definitely number one as I've seen it on a number of the arched tang knives, which is the oldest stamping used. It seems that the basketweave design was used for a shorter period of time than the Schradebone and the peachseed, it doesn't show up on quite as many knives as the latter two. Peachseed seems to have come onto the scene in the early to mid thirties, as it begins to show up more on knives that were introduced in those supplement pages, such as the swell center jack, 804, and toothpick to name a few. Dale, it sure seems like we'll never get actual dates on these. I've tried to nail down some possibilities with with discontinued patterns, but they seem to have never discontinued anything! For example, I've got two different jigging patterns on 2172-3's, but that pattern was in existence for the whole lifetime of Schrade Cut. To cause even more frustration, one of them has a special shield from G.Whitfield, which I promptly looked up to see the timeframe that company was in existence; 1902-present! No luck whatsoever:(

Wannacollect, those are some fine examples! Where exactly are you finding these beauties?:cool::thumbup:

Eric
 
I think we've got the picture as far as current info goes. The later jigging, "Peachseed" does indeed span the Cut. Co. and Walden periods. You also see it on Ulsters.
We need to do more comparing of models i.e. actual examples, and catalogs.
 
I realy wasn't for sure what the pattern was on those two knives. I now myself understand a little more about the jigging paterns.

orvet said:
I want to make sure I understand this.
The peach seed bone was a later jigging pattern, perhaps the one in use when Albert Baer bought Schrade?
If this is so, it begins to be a little clearer or me. If I recall correctly, there were some Schrade Walden's that were made with the peach seed jigging pattern.

In all likelihood, wannacollect’s knives were made prior to Schrade's widespread usage of the peach seed pattern, if I understand this right.

Thanks for the update Charlie on the jigging pattern. It would be nice to establish dates for when these different patterns were used. Even a date range would be good. But given Schrade propensity for being unpredictable, I suspect a date range would be the best we could hope for, even in our wildest dreams! :D

Those are excellent knives you have there, wannacollect! :thumbup::thumbup:
I like them!

Dale
Click to expand...
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top