Inspired by Bump...

mykulmorris

mykulmorris

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The work of Bruce Bump has always inspired me, as many others I'm sure. I made this in about 23hrs, started it ystrdy morning, finished it a couple hrs ago. Just under 17" overall, just a wee under 11'' blade w/ 9'' edge. Scales are black paper micarta, dovetailed into the bolsters. Blade is W1 tool steel, about 58Rc., Gun blue finish. The barrel is a .36 calibre black powder, just under 4" long w/ 3 3/8" deep bore. Hammer has a safety halfcock. Hammer and trigger also act as a hilt. ((It's also for sale in the fixed blades section, I don't know if thats ok to put in here...)) As this is my first of this kind, I'm sure it won't be my last, it was fun and challenging to make! Thanks for looking. Your thoughts?
-Michael

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not to be a downer, but does this count as "manufacture of a firearm"?

if it does, you could be facing all kinds of trouble if you don't have the right licenses
 
from Google on ATF and firearms manufacture...

Q: What is production and what should I report?
Section 2 (a) on the second page of the form defines production as firearms manufactured during the calendar year, to included separate frames or receivers, actions or barreled actions, disposed of in commerce. A manufacturer who acquires these items from another licensed manufacturer in the assembly and production of complete firearms will include the manufacture of these firearms in their own report. Separate frames or receivers, actions, or barreled actions are to be included in this report when they are exported or disposed of in commerce to a person other than a licensed manufacturer.

Example:
If you manufacture and sell a firearm you are to report it.
If you manufacture firearms and send them to another licensed manufacturer to finish assembly and the other manufacturer sells the firearms into commerce or exports them, then you do not include these firearms on your report.
If you manufacture a firearms part, send it to another licensed manufacturer for further assembly, and the other manufacturer returns it to you for sale into commerce or export, then you include these firearms on your report.

Since the OP has not SOLD the firearm, IMO he is probably okay. Note: I am not a attorney. I'm a gun and knife guy.
OP has more than likely already answered this question in his own mind some time ago.
BTW, you do beautiful work. I'm very impressed, although I'm a nobody.
Sonny
 
The idea of this knife/gun is one that could have easily gone wrong 1000 different ways.

However, I think you actually kind of nailed it. Very tasteful, while still sort of outlandish and in the realm of a fantasy knife. I dunno man, I dig it.

But yeah, if you haven't already, then definitely read up on what you need to do to legally sell this thing. I'm from California, so just thinking about building what would legally be a pistol could probably land me in jail :p
 
Any black powder muzzle loader is NOT considered to be a firearm under GCA, even a modern inline nor is a true antique weapon or a replica of an antique that does not shoot fixed metallic ammo like the early Sharps rifles, Dreyse, Chassepot and Carcano "needle" guns and other firearms that use paper cartridges. In the case the case of a replica of an antique that does shoot metallic ammo, it must be in a VERY obsolete caliber for which ammo is not readily available in the normal marketplace. That is why there are a goodly number of guys making kentucky long rifles, etc. BUT, if you are lucky enough to find one of the handful of 1898 Mauser prototypes that was built for the drop sea date in 1898, it is a non GCA weapon, as are a LOT of the earlier Mauser models and a large number of Krag-Jorgensens, i suspect.
As for the sale issue of a firearm that you made from scratch, It may not actually matter because of the BROAD definition of commerce. Buying ammo for one you made for yourself might count as commerce if the ATF really wants to push it. If you make a "firearm" (as opposed to building one from an already legal receiver, action, etc), you should have a license. If you want to customize an existing gun by replacing every single part other than the critical one (action, receiver) you can AND you can sell it as a private seller.
Sonnydaze said:
from Google on ATF and firearms manufacture...

Q: What is production and what should I report?
Section 2 (a) on the second page of the form defines production as firearms manufactured during the calendar year, to included separate frames or receivers, actions or barreled actions, disposed of in commerce. A manufacturer who acquires these items from another licensed manufacturer in the assembly and production of complete firearms will include the manufacture of these firearms in their own report. Separate frames or receivers, actions, or barreled actions are to be included in this report when they are exported or disposed of in commerce to a person other than a licensed manufacturer.

Example:
If you manufacture and sell a firearm you are to report it.
If you manufacture firearms and send them to another licensed manufacturer to finish assembly and the other manufacturer sells the firearms into commerce or exports them, then you do not include these firearms on your report.
If you manufacture a firearms part, send it to another licensed manufacturer for further assembly, and the other manufacturer returns it to you for sale into commerce or export, then you include these firearms on your report.

Since the OP has not SOLD the firearm, IMO he is probably okay. Note: I am not a attorney. I'm a gun and knife guy.
OP has more than likely already answered this question in his own mind some time ago.
BTW, you do beautiful work. I'm very impressed, although I'm a nobody.
Sonny
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Legalities notwithstanding, I like it. Very elegant looking. Nice job!
 
I,ve made 10 muzzle loading guns so far and sold every one of them. The authorities do not care if we Make and sell them as long as they load from the muzzle. No breech loading guns are allowed to be sold without registration. We can make breech loading guns but they must be kept in the family.
 
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