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Don Hanson III

Don Hanson III

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Thought I would show these off a bit. 4'' W1 blades clay coated, heated with a tourch and edge quenched in oil, flats are as forged, bevels are hand polished, a few quick etches in feric, then cleaned up with simichrome. Handles are curly koa wood.
The top one was made for my wife.
Thanks for lookin.
 

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Hey Don, Does the pattern resemble the way you put the clay on? I had forged a couple blades out of an old leaf spring last week and got them heat treated and one ground today. Did a quick etch and wasn't expecting to see anything assumming it was 5160. Got a really bold temperline that surprized the heck out of me. Starting to wonder now if the leaf spring is 9260. Always something interesting when were messing with steel...
 
Ray the top blade didn't follow the clay at all, the bottom one did a little but not exactly. Also, quite a few leaf springs are made of 1084, which would give a good line. It's fun messin around with this stuff :p
 
Don, 1084 had entered my mind but I'm thinking 9260 mainly because of how long ago I got the leaf spring. Its one that I picked up when I first started making 12 years ago.
 
1095 is the steel used for a lot of modern leaf spring, BTW.

What was the constituents of the clay?

Was it the Engnath Mix of firebrick?

What kind of clay?

How long did you let it dry?

FINE work, Sir! Excellent!
 
Nobleforge, I use satanite refractory for clay, about 1/8''-3/16'' thick and dried with the touch as I heated to be quenched.

Never new 1095 was used for car/truck springs ??? I checked with a spring shop several years ago, they said the steel they used was 5160 and 1084, 1080 has now replaced 1084.

Thanks guys.
 
I use 5160 for swords and it is just fabulous.

Well, Palm Beach Spring either has their figures wrong or makes some high-carbon springs!

1095 is great spring steel. I use it to make ALL my throwers and nickel damascus billets.

Scott uses 1084 for alot of his katana, so I certainly trust his judgement.
 
I was under the impression that you added, chromium, to a steel, to give it that spring quality {tensile strength}. 10 series steels have no chromium and are more noted for there toughness, than there tensile strength. They do contain some manganese which adds somewhat to there tensile strength, but 5160 has both of these additives and therefor makes a better spring at a more competitive price. Just my .02cents worth, Fred
 
Actually for springs they want fatigue strength.5160 and 9255 are typical spring steels but many alloys are used.
 
John L said:
What type steel is best for auto kicker springs? thanks
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Spring steel :p

Sorry about that :o I just use what ever I have that is close to the size I need, W1,01,1095,15N20, I've even used damascus. I give it a spring temper and very careful not to over heat when quenching. Also fish tape that electritions use to pull wire trough conduit it's 1/8''X1/16'' works great and you don't have to heat treat it, buy it at Lows or HomeDepot in a 25' roll for cheap and I believe it's 1075.
 
I can not stop staring at those. I hope you don't mind, but that first pic just became my new wallpaper. :thumbup: (on the computer ;) )
 
No prob Burch, you make me proud.

You're signed up Jonh.

Thanks for the comments everyone,

Now I need to get off this computer and get to work :D
 
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