Interesting Kukri

Relief 9/12

Relief 9/12

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A recently ended auction on E-bay had an interesting kukri. :confused:
f.w.i.w. item 6595243010
Since the auction is ended, I'm hoping that posting this isn't a problem.
If I shouldn't have posted this, my apologies; please delete.
 
It shouldn't be a problem linking to items for purposes of discusion.

If the link has anything to do with promoting the sale of the item then it becomes a problem. Linking to items after the end of the auction should be pretty safe and I don't think there will be any objections.
 
Pretty etching. Gotta be a tourist one huh? I wish someone who knew what the hell he was talking about would chime in. If it was worth more than $10 it would have sold I'd guess. Capatalism rules.
 
If it was worth more than $10 it would have sold I'd guess
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Actually, one of the bidders had a maximum bid of $300, but the seller ended the auction early because the kukri was "no longer available for sale". Presumably he did a private sale for an amount he found too attractive to pass up, in disregard of eBay rules. The pictures were pretty useless, but it had the potential of being a pretty unique older piece. Or not - I wouldn't have gambled three Franklins on those pics.
 
Berkley said:
Actually, one of the bidders had a maximum bid of $300, but the seller ended the auction early because the kukri was "no longer available for sale". Presumably he did a private sale for an amount he found too attractive to pass up, in disregard of eBay rules. The pictures were pretty useless, but it had the potential of being a pretty unique older piece. Or not - I wouldn't have gambled three Franklins on those pics.
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I didn't know e-bay would let the seller cancel an auction after bids were placed. They have all this language about your bid being a contract to buy. It's funny the seller is allowed to withdraw an item mid-auction. I would think his offer would have similar contractual implications. All the bids were listed as cancelled by the seller, instead of the buyers. It shakes my faith in the e-bay system a little.
 
It shakes my faith in the e-bay system
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eBay still makes its listing fee from the seller. Caveat emptor is eBayspeak for what aproy said: capitalism rules.
 
A bid is only a contract once the auction is over.

eBay's policy is that you can cancel an auction with bids as long as you cancel all the bids first (for an appropriate reason), AND you have to do all this before there is 12 hours left on the auction.


I find this somewhat reasonable. It allows the seller to get out if they decide to keep it, but it also provides the bidders protection - once there is 12 hours (or less) left on the auction (ie. the seller can't suddenly pull it 2 minutes before it ends).


Buyers don't pay fees when they win...the sellers do. So, the system is naturally going to lean a little toward protecting the interest of the sellers.


FWIW.....I've probably sold as many times as I've bought on eBay....so, this is my experience seen from both sides of the fence.

YMMV.....
 
Berkley said:
I wouldn't have gambled three Franklins on those pics.
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I sure wouldn't have either.:thumbdn: :rolleyes: I wonder if someone knew something we didn't.:confused: It also looked to me like it was a tourist model but then on the other hand it could've been a ceremonial model. Too bad John Powell isn't around as much as he used to be as I think he would know one way or another.
The pictures did pretty much leave a lot to be desired ainnit...:(
 
Daniel Koster said:
A bid is only a contract once the auction is over.

eBay's policy is that you can cancel an auction with bids as long as you cancel all the bids first (for an appropriate reason), AND you have to do all this before there is 12 hours left on the auction.
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So a seller can cancel a buyer's bids? How does that work?

I've bought a lot of stuff on e-bay and sold a couple of things. Never ran into this backing out of the deal stuff though.

By the way, here's what e-bay says when you place a bid:
By clicking on the button below, you commit to buy this item from the seller if you're the winning bidder.

You are agreeing to a contract -- You will enter into a legally binding contract to purchase the item from the seller if you're the winning bidder. You are responsible for reading the full item listing, including the seller's instructions and accepted payment methods. Seller assumes all responsibility for listing this item.
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Howard Wallace said:
You are agreeing to a contract -- You will enter into a legally binding contract to purchase the item from the seller if you're the winning bidder.
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There is only a contract with the winning bidder. And there are still ways to back out of that (legally as well as per ebay rules). It's treated as a verbal agreement - in lawyer talk.




Let's say you have this porcelain dish you put for sale on ebay. Two days into the auction, your three-year-old tips it off the table and it smashes into a hundred pieces on the floor. You can no longer sell it. And no bidder in their right mind would want it anymore. So, eBay came up with a way that allows sellers to back out of the auction if the status of the item changed relative to the description of it. One thing led to another and there are now several reasons why you can now dissolve an auction...including the very vague and often used: "Item is no longer available" (which I have used personally).

In order to cancel the auction for my now shattered dish, I would first cancel each bid individually (eBay's way of "punishing me" for backing out of the auction - make it painful/hard...I might give up :rolleyes: ) and then once the auction has no bids, I could cancel it. As long as there are more than 12 hours left.


I once had an item where I put in the description that it was for sale locally as well (also legal on ebay). It sold and I cancelled all the bids. Somebody kept trying to bid over and over again. I kept trying to cancel it, but in the end they prevailed in getting a bid in right at the 12 hour mark. I am not making this stuff up. It was 100% clear in the bid history that the item was "no longer available". It was also clear that every time this guy put in a bid, I was cancelling it. Thick-skulled, perhaps? Anyway, he "won" my item for like $9 (it was worth $500). Emails me with all sorts of demands, etc. So, I took the legal route and proved to eBay that I had tried to cancel his bid, but he was relentless, etc., etc. eBay sided with me on the issue. This guy was upset, but eventually got over it. The other bids I had cancelled were in the hundreds...what was he thinking? that he could just show up, sneak in, and steal it away from me?

Besides, it was actually already in the mail to the other guy. :D ;)



Anyway, I've been with eBay since '97...and have seen lots of stuff come and go. Fascinating place. Lots of crooked people on there, though. Definitely need to read the fine print - all of it.
 
Dan, Did the guy give you negative feedback? That situation would really burn me up!
 
heck no.....I only give negative feedback if I get it...and so far, I'm 100%.
 
WOW. It really surprises me that after such a confrontation there was no negateive feedback from the jerk of a buyer. I've never sold on e-bay, and only had to give one neutral feedback so far. I'm glad to hear how that worked out. I've come to not trust e-bay's feedback system. The one neutral feedback I left was daunting. E-bay tells you again and again to rethink submitting anything but + feedback. I'm sure most people just get scared away by all those warnings, give up, let it go, and give a fake +. I gave neutral because it took close to 1/2 a year to get the item to me.
 
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