Interesting Weekend Haul

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Flew back from San Diego yesterday afternoon, and didn't want to fight the traffic so I hit a couple shops I'd tucked away in the back of my head for a visit. The first one deals in old toys, but I figured it was worth a try. They had a couple dozen old knives and I walked away with 2 Kamp King Scouts, a Cutco Scout, a Colonial Stockman (not pictured), a small spear blade "pen", and this SAK knock off. All for less than $30.

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I recently picked up a ultrasonic cleaner and have been working to figure out what solution works best. I can't use anything flamable, but have had some interesting results so far, and needed a few more cheap knifes for the "experiment". Now I have a bunch.

The Kamp Kings opened up pretty good with a little soap and water, but a very thin solution of Simple Green cleaned a lot more out. I'm still looking for a rust specific solution. The stuff made for brass really cleans well, but makes a mess out of carbon blades and any plated surfaces; it either turns them black (I think it's a silver reaction) or copper in color. Strange, and chemistry was not my best subject.

The Colonial is soaking in mineral oil; it was really bound up. The "Matterhorn" is pretty interesting, as I don't see hawkbill blades on SAK very often. It's going to clean up easy.

The next store I hit didn't have anything visable, so I got to talking with the owner. She was apologetic about the mess (my favorite kind of junk shop) but they had just knocked out a wall to double the size o the store and everything was piled up. Asked about knives and her reply was, "there's a couple boxes of them around here somewhere." She later clarified that to mean a "couple hundred old knives". I left her my name and number and told her to call when they find the boxes. Who knows, it might happen.

Walked back to where I parked and stuck my head into another place. It didn't look like much, and it wasn't, but they had a couple slipjoints in a box in one case, so I asked for a look. A decent UH with a broke blade, a modern "bullet" knife, and this old Jack that was almost rusted shut.

I don't normally go for Jacks, but I figured what the heck. It could use some time in the tank, and maybe I'd learn something. The tips broke (a little) and the blades been abused (and rusted) but a soak in oil to loosen it up and 3 trips through the tank and the blades now clean enough to read. UMC. Nice suprise there. This one's going to get a little special care.

Topped it all off when driving home I stopped a a place where the sign out front said "tools for sale". The guy must have had 40-50 wood planes, and hundreds of other old wood-working tools. Even had a foot-pedal scroll saw. I asked about knives and his girl friend says my dad's sending his collection; he's got 40-50 he want's to get rid of. We'll see...

Heck of a way to wind up what was a pretty cruddy day.
 
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Cool. I have thought about using one of the ultrasonic cleaners too, but wasn't sure what to use in them. Let us know if you find the magic cleaner.
 
Hospitals use ultrasonic cleaners to clean surgical instruments and i think endoscopy equipment. You could find out what 'bath' solution they use. The cleaning department might be called "Sterile Supply" which might help you get past the 'switchboard'.
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I like that Equal End (Senator??) Shadow a lot.

Will look forward to an up-date on your cleaning experiments.

Thanks, Will
 
Great find, congratz! I really like those scout knives, especially I got one this week. Great tools! :)
 
i just use water of water with some dish washing liquid in it, either hot or cold in my ultrasonic cleaner. Make sure that you keep the knives of other things that you clean off the bottom and sides. I put mine in a wire basket. Having stuff contact the bottom and sides can interfere with the sound generators (usually on the bottom) and decrease the efficiency.

Ric
 
Maybe ammonia for a solution? I just soaked a nickel-plated coke bottle opener in white vinegar (an axe forum trick), and it fizzed like alka seltzer, giving the nickel a coat of black tarnish. So that was a mistake.
I've got a hawkbill SAK clone that's a Colonial.
 
For cleaning just dirt and grease a little Dawn goes a long way, but to remove rust you need something different. Citric acids and ammonia tend to blacken stainless and nickel silver and I learned a long time ago not to use Simple Green on nickel plated parts. Coke does a pretty decent job; I was suprised, but it works okay. I've got some stuff that's formulated for gun parts coming; that may be the ticket. I used to use kerosene, but I'm not going to do that in an electrical device.

The "Matterhorn" cleaned up just like I expected, very easy with just a shadow of the black growth left after a couple trips through the bath and some flitz and a soft brass brush. Took a couple hours, but now I have a pretty nice knife. Found out it's an Imperial, didn't expect that. I'll post pics later if I get home before the sun goes down.
 
Admirable haul, I forgot to mention.
I often get Colonial and Imperial mixed up, for some reason, but my hawkbill SAKoid (Mountain Guide) is a Colonial. Below in the pic is my Grandpa's humidor knife, an Imperial SAKoid.
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Here's a shot of the Imperial Matterhorn. It got 6 minutes with some simple green (diluted 20:1) and some hand polishing with Flitz and the occasional brass brush. There's still some shadow where the worst of the black growth was, but it looks really nice otherwise.

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The little shadow pen is really nice. I can't make out the manufacturer, but it's nicely done. I absolutely love the blade shape. It's one of my favorites already. The scales are (I'm pretty sure) celluloid and pretty soft but they polished up nice with a little Flitz. I soaked this one in mineral oil and then subjected it to some Coke in the tank. A little bit of polishing and it looks really nice. Took an edge like a good Lab takes to water. If anybody can figure out the makers mark I'd appreciate it.

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Here's a shot of the Imperial Matterhorn. It got 6 minutes with some simple green (diluted 20:1) and some hand polishing with Flitz and the occasional brass brush. There's still some shadow where the worst of the black growth was, but it looks really nice otherwise.

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The little shadow pen is really nice. I can't make out the manufacturer, but it's nicely done. I absolutely love the blade shape. It's one of my favorites already. The scales are (I'm pretty sure) celluloid and pretty soft but they polished up nice with a little Flitz. I soaked this one in mineral oil and then subjected it to some Coke in the tank. A little bit of polishing and it looks really nice. Took an edge like a good Lab takes to water. If anybody can figure out the makers mark I'd appreciate it.

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Could it be PAL blade co. ? They turned out nice by the way. :thumbup:
 
I thought I'd continue this incase anybody's inerested...

The little Colonial that didn't make the first photo came out OK. It was really pretty rusty and I had to soak it to get the blades to open. Really stiff. Betwen the ultrasound and a couple hours of rubbing it down with some Flitz, and a couple oil baths, I finally got a pretty nice little pocket knife. The blades are intact, hardly worn at all. Now they have snap to them and a good edge. It must have been a pretty popular pattern here, I've seen acouple more (in bad shape) just in the last two weeks.

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The Kamp Kings were interesting, a little stiff and rusty (which seems to be normal). One had a notch in the main blade and somebody had taken a grinder to the awl, but the other was just neglected. I fixed the blades, got rid of most of the rust marks, and gave them some oil and an edge. They'll be good for another 30 years easy.

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The Jack turned out to be a nice Remington. Had to do a little work on the main blade (the tip was broken off and the edge was wavy), but it came back to life with a little care. I did a little more stone work on this one, but still it's all simple care to bring it back. I'm going to keep this one a while.

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This weekend got me another haul to play with:

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Great haul (a heck of a lot better than I got in Otley)! :) Really like seeing the 'before' and 'after' pics :)
 
I actually went back to the place where I got the Remington, and was talking to the guy who owns the place. He doesn't do much with knives, but he told me about a yearly community yard sale that was being held this weekend. I got there behind the "dealers" but still found enough to keep me happy. I passed on a fair number of other knives due to price and additude. I just was not in the mood to put up with a lot of hassle. Still, I do regret not picking up a little hatchet one guy had. Oh well.

I've started this plan to give Scout knives to scouts at the local shows. I figure it's the least I can do, putting some good knives into the hands of kids who should have them. And they're cheap enough. I was talking about this with one guy and another guy horns in with, "I'm a scout, you gonna give me a knife?" I told him if he'd come back in his uniform I'd wait right there and give him a knife. Since he was pushing 60, and weighed over 250, that ended that conversation.
 
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I've started this plan to give Scout knives to scouts at the local shows. I figure it's the least I can do, putting some good knives into the hands of kids who should have them. And they're cheap enough. I was talking about this with one guy and another guy horns in with, "I'm a scout, you gonna give me a knife?" I told him if he'd come back in his uniform I'd wait right there and give him a knife. Since he was pushing 60, and weighed over 250, that ended that conversation.

LOL :D Nice idea though :)
 
Wow, interesting haul is right! I wonder if using commercial watch parts cleaner would be worth a try. The solutions are usually a little on the pricey side but they are made specifically for brass parts and nickel plated parts. There are a couple of parts houses on the web that have good customer service, if you're interested let me know.

I love you telling the big guy to come back in his uniform. :D If he was a Scouter he should have his BSA membership card with him, all the ones I know do.
 
another guy horns in with, "I'm a scout, you gonna give me a knife?" I told him if he'd come back in his uniform I'd wait right there and give him a knife. Since he was pushing 60, and weighed over 250, that ended that conversation.

What a great reply!

Excellent rescue work on those knives. Thanks for bringing back to useful life some neglected blades.
 
This Remington turned out really nice. Great find!

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The small brown (brass) knife and the equal end single blade right next to it looks interesting. What brand are these? If you have close ups of these two, please share!! Nathan

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