Intro, and a roughly $100 question

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Hi folks, I'm Aahzz, been reading here on and off but don't believe I've ever posted before. I'm in the market for a new EDC - here's the background.

Back in the wild days of the 1990s a friend introduced me to Spyderco - seemed nice, but I never liked the feel of the thumb hole. Bought a CRKT with a thumb stud and a half serrated blade. It's still around here somewhere.

Around about '04-'05, I was out for a neighborhood bike ride, when I saw something shiny in the street. Stopped, turns out it was a Kershaw Leek, lying open in the road. With kids about, and no adults, I didn't want to leave it there, so home with me it came. It proceeded to live in my pocket for the next 15 years or so - I absolutely loved that knife.

The problem with the Leek is that it also really liked to slip out of my pocket at inopportune moments - much as it had likely done with its previous owner. I usually found it in my car, but alas, several years back it slipped out somewhere in public and was not found again.

Replaced it with a Kershaw Gravel, as cash was somewhat tight at the time. Nice enough little knife, but I never had the love for it that I had for the Leek. I spent a fair amount of time this summer wearing a kilt with no pockets, left the Gravel somewhere in my house, and can't currently find it. I'm sure it'll turn up, but it's an excuse for a new knife.

Did some research, saw several people of the opinion that assisted opening isn't necessary, and bought a Civivi Mini Praxis. It arrived today - feels good in my hand, blade is nice, it's super sharp - but I miss that positive opening experience from the Kershaws. It opens all the way *most* of the time, as long as I flip my wrist with it...and I'm sure with practice it'll get better, but dangit, I miss my Leek.

So, the obvious answer is "Buy a Leek, Aahzz!". And, it's highly likely that I will. Still, I remember its tendency, with the smooth stainless scales, to slide out of my pocket. So, I'm looking for opinions of assisted flippers in the same price range. I looked at the Blur, but I generally prefer using my index finger on a flipper to a thumb stud - got some arthritis in the thumbs and try to take it easy. I could go smaller with the scallion, but it's still a metal handle, and I'm not sure about the 420hc steel.

Ooh - on the steel front, I also see that the Leek can be had in Magnacut for a bit over $100 - worth it over the 14c28n? I never had an issue with edge retention or strength on my previous Leek, but hey, better is better...but it's also about a $40 difference from the cheapest I've found a Leek.

Barring alternatives to the Leek, hints on how to keep a Leek stable in a jeans pocket?
 
Welcome to BF. :)

The ZT 0350 is one of KAI's best assisted knives, and a superb flipper and knife overall, but it's a step up from the price point of a Leek. Can be had used or on sale for closer to $125 than the street price of $188, though.

I'd say the MagnaCut Leek is worth it. I have their "The Edge" version, and like any of the coated-handle Leeks it has a touch more grippiness than the non-coated versions. I've never had any issues with it sliding out of my pocket, in any case; that clip is quite snug.

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Welcome! I had a Leek back in the day when I first got into knives. One big change between then and now is the rise of flippers that run on ball bearings; these knives didn't exist when the Leek got really popular. With a stiff enough detent and the right geometry on the flipper, the best of these knives now are quick and reliable to open, no assist necessary. If it's a button lock or crossbar lock instead of frame/liner, they're also really quick and easy to close.

IMO I wouldn't pay the higher price for the Magnacut Leek. The niche the Leek does well in is as a budget knife that's still good and made in the USA. If you're going up to a Magnacut Leek, I'd say it would be worth it to go a little higher and get a Protech Malibu, possibly secondhand.
 
If you like Kershaw knives, search assisted on their site.

The Bel Air comes with a thumbstud, and in Magnacut. Great knife but isn't assisted.

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Some of their Launch series are assisted and automatic. If they're legal where you live, be sure to check.

If you're trying to keep the price around $100, look at their Blur. It comes in 4-5 different steel choices, price varies with different steel types.

The Blur is also assisted, some people prefer to remove the factory spring. Doesn't really change much, I can still flip it open about as fast, without the spring.

Here's the last Blur I bought with a Damascus blade. I just couldn't resist, that blue and Damascus together.

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The Belair is a nice knife. Very smooth and quick opening although not a flipper tab. I enjoy mine but its not a top carry for me due to a design "flaw" the big choil in-between the handle and blade means when you want to put it to use cutting down boxes or plastic it gets hung up and your stuck. Doesn't matter how sharp if it gets hung up. My spydercos never do this so theyre in my pocket almost always.

That said I think you enjoy the leek and you would really enjoy it in magnacut. You gotta keep in mind Kershaw is one of the few manufacturers doing magnacut right and being transparent about the HRC theyre heat treating too. Its why they earned my business for two magnacut knives. Its definitely good stuff. I vote magnacut leek.

The only other knife I can think of you may consider for quick opening with a similarly shaped magnacut blade from Kershaw is their OTF the live wire. I enjoy mine also but I reserve it as a social carry for fine dining restaurants to cut steaks or family get togethers.
 
Also, the bel air has a good clip. It definitely will not ever fall put of your pocket. But that can be taken too far. As is the case of the bel air, it's too difficult to pull out of my pocket and is a pita. I greatly prefer the ease in pulling out my frn spydercos. Just a thought that the leek may not be all bad in not having the words tightest clip
 
Welcome!

Man. You're getting real close to Protech money at that. Even a Protech/Les George Rockeye on the secondary. That's another level right there. If OTS autos are legal in your state.
 
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The Blur was my first ‘nice’ knife. I didn’t really know what I was after, I just did a little research, tried to keep the cost reasonable, and a S30V Blur won the toss. The assist on it lets it fly open with barely a nudge of the thumb studs. But there is a negative that keeps it from being a regular carry - the textured grips will eventually shred your pants pocket. But it’s still fun to fidget with.

If you’re really bent on assisted flippers, check out the rest of Kershaw’s models - they probably have more assisted flippers in more blade shapes, sizes and materials than any other manufacturer. You’re bound to find something in a similar size and weight to the Leek that should tickle you.
 
This one has been with me for a little while. There were a number of features present to "try out," as we do, and I picked the "pretty" version when it was on sale.
First thing I did was flip the clip. I don't know how much of a difference that made, but it has not slipped out of my pocket.
This knife taught me that I don't need assisted opening. Yet.
I also became sure that the blade shape is not my favorite.
However, I do appreciate the smooth scales. It's one of the few in my regular rotation that I can pull without it trying to bring my pocket with it.
It sounds like you would be happiest with a direct replacement.

That said, I do not believe there are any better folders in Magnacut for the money than the Belair. I highly recommend it.
The action is so smooth, I bet you won't miss the assistance. Blade is slightly thinner stock than a Leek, but I find the taller profile much easier for control. The clip point is personally my favorite. Very slim, very light in the pocket, very comfy in my hands. Better grip surface if the smooth steel is your only dislike.

I'd say get your Leek, but if budget allows try both.
 
Personally I’d be fine with 14 steel, magnacut’s good, If you want it.
Really 14c28n will do everything you want and need.
I don’t think you will notice a difference in use.
 
Get a Leek, remove the clip, bend it a wee tad in a vise so it will have more tension, then put the clip back on. But this means it will be harder to draw from the pocket.

If appearance is less important, you could remove the clip and put a strip of "grip tape" or "skateboard tape" under it. Gravelly stuff, reminds you of sandpaper. With no science behind it, I believe that pocket clips are about 60% design, and 40% the material under the clip.
 
I actually thought about that myself, although with the rubbery tape not the sandpaper type since that would chew a pocket up pronto. But the added thickness would increase the clip tension quite a bit, which might be a problem in itself, and also might cause the tape to get pulled off fairly soon. But could always try it and see . .
 
Besides my Leeks, my only other assisted knife is a Benchmade Mini Barrage. I like it, and it seems to be popular with the retired cops who man the knife counter at Cabela’s.
 
Another option may be to roughen the inside of the clip with a low grit (~80?) sandpaper or score it with a file. This may create the grip you're looking for. Good luck!
 
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Hi folks, I'm Aahzz, been reading here on and off but don't believe I've ever posted before. I'm in the market for a new EDC - here's the background.

Back in the wild days of the 1990s a friend introduced me to Spyderco - seemed nice, but I never liked the feel of the thumb hole. Bought a CRKT with a thumb stud and a half serrated blade. It's still around here somewhere.

Around about '04-'05, I was out for a neighborhood bike ride, when I saw something shiny in the street. Stopped, turns out it was a Kershaw Leek, lying open in the road. With kids about, and no adults, I didn't want to leave it there, so home with me it came. It proceeded to live in my pocket for the next 15 years or so - I absolutely loved that knife.

The problem with the Leek is that it also really liked to slip out of my pocket at inopportune moments - much as it had likely done with its previous owner. I usually found it in my car, but alas, several years back it slipped out somewhere in public and was not found again.

Replaced it with a Kershaw Gravel, as cash was somewhat tight at the time. Nice enough little knife, but I never had the love for it that I had for the Leek. I spent a fair amount of time this summer wearing a kilt with no pockets, left the Gravel somewhere in my house, and can't currently find it. I'm sure it'll turn up, but it's an excuse for a new knife.

Did some research, saw several people of the opinion that assisted opening isn't necessary, and bought a Civivi Mini Praxis. It arrived today - feels good in my hand, blade is nice, it's super sharp - but I miss that positive opening experience from the Kershaws. It opens all the way *most* of the time, as long as I flip my wrist with it...and I'm sure with practice it'll get better, but dangit, I miss my Leek.

So, the obvious answer is "Buy a Leek, Aahzz!". And, it's highly likely that I will. Still, I remember its tendency, with the smooth stainless scales, to slide out of my pocket. So, I'm looking for opinions of assisted flippers in the same price range. I looked at the Blur, but I generally prefer using my index finger on a flipper to a thumb stud - got some arthritis in the thumbs and try to take it easy. I could go smaller with the scallion, but it's still a metal handle, and I'm not sure about the 420hc steel.

Ooh - on the steel front, I also see that the Leek can be had in Magnacut for a bit over $100 - worth it over the 14c28n? I never had an issue with edge retention or strength on my previous Leek, but hey, better is better...but it's also about a $40 difference from the cheapest I've found a Leek.

Barring alternatives to the Leek, hints on how to keep a Leek stable in a jeans pocket?
Welcome to posting, BTW. Much impressed with your commitment to a knife model. It’s nice to read about someone not acquiring scads of knives when they know what they like and try hard to solve a simple problem.

Pics will be interesting when you get started on solutions.
 
This one has been with me for a little while. There were a number of features present to "try out," as we do, and I picked the "pretty" version when it was on sale.
First thing I did was flip the clip. I don't know how much of a difference that made, but it has not slipped out of my pocket.
This knife taught me that I don't need assisted opening. Yet.
I also became sure that the blade shape is not my favorite.
However, I do appreciate the smooth scales. It's one of the few in my regular rotation that I can pull without it trying to bring my pocket with it.
It sounds like you would be happiest with a direct replacement.

That said, I do not believe there are any better folders in Magnacut for the money than the Belair. I highly recommend it.
The action is so smooth, I bet you won't miss the assistance. Blade is slightly thinner stock than a Leek, but I find the taller profile much easier for control. The clip point is personally my favorite. Very slim, very light in the pocket, very comfy in my hands. Better grip surface if the smooth steel is your only dislike.

I'd say get your Leek, but if budget allows try both.

That clip point/micarta Bel Air is sorely tempting me...too bad my budget is pretty stressed right now. How do you rate Kershaw's execution of the axis/crossbar lock compared to Benchmade? Which is smoother to operate?
 
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