introduction to japanese waterstones

[Threethreethree]

Hi there

I would like to have some advices to chose a JWS starter set, so far im thinking about a 1000 and 3000 grit but i have no clue about which brands, in fact i would like something with a similar scratch pattern as with a spyderco gray ceramic and something a little more refined.

The only reference point i have so far with waterstones is the belgian coticule which i do like the feel and feedback but i would like something more gouge resistant than the coticule and also something that can tackle s30v, 440v and cpm m4 (gonna get a Gayle Bradley soon); slow wearing and fast cutting would be cherry on the top but i guess these will come with hefty price...

Thanks

 

[bonusmarple]

Slowest wearing and fastest cutting I have is the chosera by naniwa. I don't sharpen those steels so no idea how they would perform. I would probably stick to ceramics or diamonds.

 

[BluntCut MetalWorks]

Take a look at the Gesshin waterstone line from Japanese Knife Import. I've a 1K splash & go stone, it's very slow wearing and fast cutting (s90v, s30v, cpm-m4, zdp-189, so on..). Pricey - yes.

 

[Jason B.]

The chosera stones come to mind with your requirements though M4 will still challenge them. The Nubatama stones will do better but are less gouge resistant and a muddy type of stone which challenges the sharpening skill a bit more.

 

[Threethreethree]

Thanks for inputs

In fact i had the chosera stones in mind because i heard a lot of praise about them after watching Jdavis' and Virtuovice's channels .

I never heard about Gesshin but it sounds interesting and the price is still acceptable to me if they last a while.

What you think about the jump from 1k to 3k grit ? Is this a good range or should i go higher or lower in grit after 1k keeping in mind ill prolly go on coticule when i want a really fine polish after that. (well coticule struggles a lot to raise a burr on s30v yet it still polishes acceptably well but i guess it wont touch cpm m4)

How good are Shapton glass stones compared to Chosera ? I keep hearing good things about them also and they seem to eat steel at a very fast rate even for higher grits, do they still work that fast vs vanadium rich steels ?