Is a spyderco knife with an axis lock possible?

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Do you think it's possible or even likely that spyderco and benchmade would collaborate on a knife?

A sage with an axis lock would be very nice! Or any other spyderco with an axis lock.

I think a mix between those two knife companies would make an interesting knife. I wish there were more collaborations between more knife companies.
 
I think a manix 2 with an axis lock would be a perfect knife. Call it a manix 3.

I know that there are a few benchmades that use the Spyderco hole: bm 15020/15030 bone collector, onslaught, and some grips. (My favorite bms)

But benchmade only really using their axis lock. Only a few are frame or liner locks. So I don't see them letting another company use their only locking system. Not to meantion it's one of the strongest locks on the market. It really sets them apart. I doubt they would give that up willingly. :/
 
Since we aren't just discussing Spyderco here, I'm going to move this to General Knife Discussion.
 
Don't worry, as far as I know (please correct if wrong) the US patent for the "axis" lock expires in 2015.
I can't wait frankly because I think the axis lock is pure brilliance.

And I wouldn't be surprised if it will replace the frame/liner lock as most used lock, at least in non gentleman folders.
 
Yeah, the Sage 5 or 6 should be axis lock. CBBL is not even close to the axis in feel and ease.
 
the kid said:
Don't worry, as far as I know (please correct if wrong) the US patent for the "axis" lock expires in 2015.
I can't wait frankly because I think the axis lock is pure brilliance.

And I wouldn't be surprised if it will replace the frame/liner lock as most used lock, at least in non gentleman folders.
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I classify the BM 530 and 960 models as Gentlemen's Folders based on minimal weight, thinness and overall looks and both are axis lock knives. Also the BM 470, particularly the 470-131 Gold class Damascus blade version. Benchmade does not currently use the Axis lock in any under 3" blade knives but I see no reason that they could not.
 
tatfiend said:
I classify the BM 530 and 960 models as Gentlemen's Folders based on minimal weight, thinness and overall looks and both are axis lock knives. Also the BM 470, particularly the 470-131 Gold class Damascus blade version. Benchmade does not currently use the Axis lock in any under 3" blade knives but I see no reason that they could not.
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That 470 sure is an attractive knife.
I'm not saying the axis lock can't be used in a gentleman folder but it doesn't fit all gentleman folders appearance.
Or in some cases doesn't fit the knives at all because there simply is no room to fit it.:p
 
the kid said:
That 470 sure is an attractive knife.
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It's like a prettier 707, except with a developmental disability (unnecessary assist, plus bonus annoying safety mechanism that wouldn't be required if it didn't have the unnecessary assist).

I'd be happy if everything that wasn't a flipper (until someone figures out how to make a great flipping axis knife) had an axis lock. IMO, it's the perfect blend of solid lockup and ease of use. I like the compression lock fine, and trust it's just as strong, but the axis lock wins out on practical ease of use to me.
 
There is a new lock that Spyderco debuted on their BLADE show table that resembles the Axis-Lock or Sog's Arc-Lock. It is supposed to be different than the caged ball bearing lock.
 
IIRC Spyderco had a lawsuit against benchmade for using the spydie hole without their permission, So I doubt that they would ever collaborate on anything. However Sal is a genius, He has made so many innovations in the knife world you wouldn't believe it, the pocket clip, Spydie hole , and a few more I can't recall off the top of my head, I'm sure he could design a lock just as good if not better than the Axis lock, I like the ball lock as well, but IMO the Axis lock is easier to use one handed, and the way Sal is with customers if enough people got behind it he would probably tweak the ball lock to be more one handed friendly , or even redesign a whole new locking mechanism.
 
evilgreg said:
It's like a prettier 707, except with a developmental disability (unnecessary assist, plus bonus annoying safety mechanism that wouldn't be required if it didn't have the unnecessary assist).

I'd be happy if everything that wasn't a flipper (until someone figures out how to make a great flipping axis knife) had an axis lock. IMO, it's the perfect blend of solid lockup and ease of use. I like the compression lock fine, and trust it's just as strong, but the axis lock wins out on practical ease of use to me.
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This week I took my knife apart to take a look at the axis lock and I'm extremely impressed.
It is such a simple design, a cut out on each side of the liner, a bar in the middle, two studs on either side. The most elaborate thing is you need to make room for the springs in the handles.
According to some videos/tests it's a really strong lock as well.

I feel like the frame, liner and back lock are archaic and the only reason they are still being used in 90% of lock knives is because of the patent.
Or to put it in other words: if the patent wasn't there I think the axis lock would be the most used lock.
 
IMO, the Ball and Axis locks are functionally the same. The Axis lock is easier to operate though.
 
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