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Ganzo's lock is a blatant copy of an axis lock and Amazon actually doesn't care, if they know at all.
This is the same company that's infamous here for sending people "new" knives that are actually returned, used knives, or for sending people counterfeits in legit looking listings.
This is where search is helpful, there have been about a 1000 threads on this in the last couple years.when I see Ganzo knives on Amazon, it lists the lock type as G-lock but looks like Axis locks.
Is Ganzo just ignoring patent/trademark and using Benchmade Axis lock design? Just curious.
It doesnt seem likely that it is allowed in Amazon.
Thanks.
Side note, Ganzo should be sued by benchmade and Spyderco.
They are not quality at all. IMHO they are junk. Some people will stand there and say they are good, and support them ripping off everyone.Ive never handle a ganzo. The lock does look the same but with it prices how could it be the same quality.
Side note, Ganzo should be sued by benchmade and Spyderco.
You should really cite your facts regarding the patent no longer being in force.I did some searching. Looks like Benchmade Axis lock patent is public now.... so Ganzo is doing nothing illegal in the g-lock..
Maybe they are infringing on other designs. Not sure.
Just poor quality product, but not illegal
Hi Danke42,You should really cite your facts regarding the patent no longer being in force.
You should also be aware that this same assertion has been made repeatedly here and proved wrong repeatedly.
You may have come across new information but history is not in your favor.
Even if the Axis lock patent has expired (I really think it may have, I'm no patent lawyer, but I know patents are VERY hard to extend), that doesn't change the fact that Ganzo not only copied the Axis lock without permission for years before the patent expired, but also blatantly advertised it as an Axis lock mechanism until very recently.You should really cite your facts regarding the patent no longer being in force.
You should also be aware that this same assertion has been made repeatedly here and proved wrong repeatedly.
You may have come across new information but history is not in your favor.
Hi Insipid,Even if the Axis lock patent has expired (I really think it may have, I'm no patent lawyer, but I know patents are VERY hard to extend), that doesn't change the fact that Ganzo not only copied the Axis lock without permission for years before the patent expired, but also blatantly advertised it as an Axis lock mechanism until very recently.
If Ganzo had waited until now to put out a G-lock and put it on original designs there might be a bit more grey area, but they've illegally used IP for years and continue to clone other designs. It's hard for me to swallow any argument that they're justified in using the lock now if the patent is, indeed, expired, when they happily used it illegally for years before.
Ah. Thank you for clarifying. That lets me know all I need to.Hi Insipid,
The initial question was... are they illegally ripping of a patent. Im not arguing that they are doing an ethical thing, or were operating illegally in previous years.
Simply asking “are they doing anything illegal now”.
Thank you. If Ganzo is indeed infringing utility patent rights, and it is NOT expired.. i will contact Amazon and try to have Ganzo products down. Amazon rarely cares about design patents but they will take down a utility patent or personal hygine products with issues reported product down fast.. and they will need to provie legal documents to open their store again. I have done this before as a seller/brand in Amazon. i have reported and taken down. And someone has reported me, but when proved with legal documents, they opened my products again.Ah. Thank you for clarifying. That lets me know all I need to.
Silly question then. They are in China. Our laws have no legitimacy there.Hi Insipid,
The initial question was... are they illegally ripping of a patent. Im not arguing that they are doing an ethical thing, or were operating illegally in previous years.
Simply asking “are they doing anything illegal now”.
Hi Danke42,
As far as I know, Benchmade’s Axis lock is Patent Number: 5,737,841 and it was filed in July of 1996
Utility patent lasts 20 years... after that it becomes public. So Ganzo is not ripping off a patent but using a public utility.. just like a framelock or liner lock.
Please let me know if incorrect.