Is it or isn't it???

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Telechronos

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Here is one for the pros.

The following knife was offered as a legitimate 1940s "HH BUCK" hand made knife.

I have issues with much about the knife.

1) Did Hoyt Ever sign his knives "HH BUCK?"
2) Did he ever make wierd shaped knives such as this?
3) Are there industrial files sifficiently wide to grind a knife such as this?
4) Did Hoyt ever use fancy sheaths such as this?
5) Does anything about it look like a Hoyt Buck knife?

I know that it conceivably could be a custom made to a design provided by a customer but it just doesn't look like a Buck product.

What is the consensus of the pros around here?

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Telechronos:):):)
 
That knife is 'Not' his style . Its not even Frank's style . He didn't stamp them either . I vote no . DM
 
David Martin said:
That knife is 'Not' his style . Its not even Frank's style . He didn't stamp them either . I vote no . DM
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I aggree, I don't think this is a Hoyt Buck Made knife. Doesn't fit the period. Hoyt Buck died 1949, he used worn out file blades and scraps of materials to make his knives not stag horn. He did stamp the name BUCK on his knives, but I've never seen HH Buck. The leather sheath doesnt fit either, Hoyt Bucks sheaths were mand made by his wife from scrap leather as well. I say NO
 
ahhh man,....how do I retract my bid:rolleyes::p....I thought that was the only Gurkha khukuri Hoyt ever made and then shipped it to Europe;)
 
LOL.....,

When I saw that the seller was in france......I said....bid if you want to get screwed! Need to get Joe H to look at the photo's.
jb4570
 
I've emailed the photos to Joe but he is out of town until about the 13th of this month. I asked him the same questions that I posted here.

Telechronos:):):)
 
That looks like a BLATANT fake! Ugly knife and whoever stamped the tang one letter at a time wasn't even skilled enough to keep the letters lined up!

My guess is Pakistan, India or Chinese origin.

Peter
 
I'd retract my bid and put the reason that it is not a knife made by Hoyt Buck. Or you could just create a phantom bidder account and outbid yourself.
 
I don't know enough about Hoyt Buck's knives to comment on its authenticity, however, the handle appears to be off of a carving set piece.
 
Telechronos said:
I've emailed the photos to Joe but he is out of town until about the 13th of this month. I asked him the same questions that I posted here.

Telechronos:):):)
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I also emailed Joe. I also emailed the seller and asked if he had it authenticated with BUCK KNIVES. He said he had not. I have quite a few eary BUCK knives, but none stamped H.H. BUCK, althought the BUCK part of the stamp looks right. There were some unusual knives shown in the Story of BUCk KNIVES that Hoyt made. I have never seen a sheath like this one. I have enough doubt about the knife that I would not bid on it unless I knew it was the real thing.
 
I was delighted to hear from HK who, it seems, has collected about every knife that Hoyt made;);).

Another thing that bothers me about the knife is the Fuller (blood groove). It looks like it was ground with a flat wheel and is much wider than anything I have ever seem on a Hoyt Buck made knife.

I have copied the pictures that HK referred to above. Note especially the handles and pommels of those knives. All are very carefully and professionally finished as opposed to the "carving set" handle on the questionable knife.

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Telechronos:):):)
 
In my opinion the tang stamp would be a big clue for or against..I'm sure there were only a few [2-3 ?] stamps used on ALL early Bucks.. if it's a TRUE Buck tang stamp,well thats a big plus for it to be real..
 
I don't think the grind of this blade fits the work of Hoyts' era. The "bloodgroove" appears to have been hollow ground using a 1/2" wheel on a tool arm, and is likely 2" long, the width of a 1/2"wheel. The handle has that German flair, at least to me. I hope I'm wrong, and someone gets a good deal.
 
Scott Hartman said:
I don't think the grind of this blade fits the work of Hoyts' era. The "bloodgroove" appears to have been hollow ground using a 1/2" wheel on a tool arm, and is likely 2" long, the width of a 1/2"wheel. The handle has that German flair, at least to me. I hope I'm wrong, and someone gets a good deal.
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That's the first thing that crossed my mind too.That handle looks a lot like it came from a German carving knife.
 
I don't think it's real... Like Skyhorse said (Quote) handle looks a lot like it came from a German carving knife... :eek:
 
If I was a guessing man, I'd say it came from that region of Pakistan were they can make AK47's out of old soup cans and baling wire.
 
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