Is the Adamas 2 as strong as original?

I'm gonna guess it's just as, if not stronger than the original. As for what changed? The steel is now Cru-wear, and the ergonomics have been updated (hopefully it will feel less like a brick in the hand). You should check out the Benchmade subforum, you'll probably find a lot more discussion there, and a Benchmade Employee might even chime in and answer you.
 
The blade stock thickness dropped from .165 to .140, but it's made out significantly harder and stronger steel (CPM CruWear at 63-65 HRC). The liners appear to be the same thickness as before, and they moved from a backspacer to standoffs and shed about an ounce of weight. I'm guessing that it meets or exceeds the specifications of the original. Seems to be a great update, and I'll be picking one up.
 
marrenmiller said:
The blade stock thickness dropped from .165 to .140, but it's made out significantly harder and stronger steel (CPM CruWear at 63-65 HRC). The liners appear to be the same thickness as before, and they moved from a backspacer to standoffs and shed about an ounce of weight. I'm guessing that it meets or exceeds the specifications of the original. Seems to be a great update, and I'll be picking one up.
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I have often felt that if I had to start over, I would just get something like an Adamas folder and be done with it. No more knife in each car. No SAK in each bag or pack. No more back up knives, nothing.

Just a SAK folder for Sunday meetings and the like, plus something like the Adamas.

Any Adamas owner just use a two knife rig?
 
sabre cat said:
I have often felt that if I had to start over, I would just get something like an Adamas folder and be done with it. No more knife in each car. No SAK in each bag or pack. No more back up knives, nothing.

Just a SAK folder for Sunday meetings and the like, plus something like the Adamas.

Any Adamas owner just use a two knife rig?
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Well, when I first got the Adamas, I took it into the woods with a large fixed blade (BK9 I think) for several days and nights. It is admirable, but it made a right mess of chopping onions. ;)

Over the past couple of years, I have read time and again how the Adamas is somehow flimsy compared with CS triad offerings. (Because Axis.) I just take the Adamas out, play with it, look at it, and laugh.​
 
I like the Adamas and I think it's a fun knife. I like to call it my folding fixed blade because it feels like a fixed blade when open and I mean that mostly because it has a handle that I can do a lot of work with without getting wicked hotspots and that's really hard for me with folders, especially those without a backlock or backspacer as the gap between the liners or scales are often rough and chew up my hands.

sabre cat sabre cat I could see the adamas being carried with a SAK being a great combo as the adamas is a bit thick for finer slicing, as Pilsner Pilsner points out with the onions. The thick stock edge grind doesn't help. But, it does work work. For my liking, I would use the SAK blade for food anyway as it's thinner and I like to use the dirty blade/clean blade idea, especially when carrying a 2-blade traditional, and the adamas makes a decent dedicated dirty blade.

Pilsner Pilsner what about the axis lock is flimsy? It seems like it consistently tests quite high in the abuse tests from BM, cold steel, and some other places. The triad lock is still my favorite lock for doing stupid things with but for knife uses, the stop pin and liners should come into play more than the lock since that's normally what's resisting the forces cutting, not the lock.

Lastly, has it been on the forums here where you read that the adamas lock is flimsy compared to the triad lock? Maybe I need to do some more digging. I will say, I feel more comfortable chopping and batoning with the triad lock (not ideal but I like testing things) as I feel the axis could more easily vibrate unlocked from the shock whereas the triad does just fine. Those are about the only two scenarios though where I would find the axis lock to potentially be problematic and that's not really a lock failure, IMO. I have read some reports where the contego failed so maybe I just haven't stumbled upon the adamas threads yet. Still, liner locks have been consistently the worse choice for "rough" use (AKA abuse, especially on a folder).
 
bikerector said:
I like the Adamas and I think it's a fun knife. I like to call it my folding fixed blade because it feels like a fixed blade when open and I mean that mostly because it has a handle that I can do a lot of work with without getting wicked hotspots and that's really hard for me with folders, especially those without a backlock or backspacer as the gap between the liners or scales are often rough and chew up my hands.

sabre cat sabre cat I could see the adamas being carried with a SAK being a great combo as the adamas is a bit thick for finer slicing, as Pilsner Pilsner points out with the onions. The thick stock edge grind doesn't help. But, it does work work. For my liking, I would use the SAK blade for food anyway as it's thinner and I like to use the dirty blade/clean blade idea, especially when carrying a 2-blade traditional, and the adamas makes a decent dedicated dirty blade.

Pilsner Pilsner what about the axis lock is flimsy? It seems like it consistently tests quite high in the abuse tests from BM, cold steel, and some other places. The triad lock is still my favorite lock for doing stupid things with but for knife uses, the stop pin and liners should come into play more than the lock since that's normally what's resisting the forces cutting, not the lock.

Lastly, has it been on the forums here where you read that the adamas lock is flimsy compared to the triad lock? Maybe I need to do some more digging. I will say, I feel more comfortable chopping and batoning with the triad lock (not ideal but I like testing things) as I feel the axis could more easily vibrate unlocked from the shock whereas the triad does just fine. Those are about the only two scenarios though where I would find the axis lock to potentially be problematic and that's not really a lock failure, IMO. I have read some reports where the contego failed so maybe I just haven't stumbled upon the adamas threads yet. Still, liner locks have been consistently the worse choice for "rough" use (AKA abuse, especially on a folder).
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Nothing flimsy in my opinion! It is a tank! :)
 
I’ve wanted a mini version for years, that’s the new one I’m waiting for.
 
I've come to the point that I'm just now sure how "strong" I need a folding knife to be. The more I carry knives the more I go back to my roots in that I like something that is decent to carry and cuts well. My grandfather carried a Case Trapper and did daily farm chores everyday. I'm not advocating for a Case but the idea that a pocket knife has to be overbuilt to be tough is partially marketing hype. The Adamas was just too thick all around for me in the past. The addition of Cru Wear and thinner stock looks good but I'm still not sure if I need or want a knife that's going to be ground that thick.
 
Weakest part of this knife is the Omega springs. Other than that the new one is going to be a beast also. Might pick one up myself provided they aren’t having issues with the heat treat
 
highestpoint said:
Weakest part of this knife is the Omega springs. Other than that the new one is going to be a beast also. Might pick one up myself provided they aren’t having issues with the heat treat
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Why would they have HT problems? BM normally is very good about that.
 
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Why would they have HT problems? BM normally is very good about that.
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Usually, they do. The Bailout was a big bust in my eyes. I’m not totally against them in that aspect but I will wait for a few batches before I pick one up. Just so if there is any issues, hopefully they’ll be sorted out.
 
highestpoint said:
Usually, they do. The Bailout was a big bust in my eyes. I’m not totally against them in that aspect but I will wait for a few batches before I pick one up. Just so if there is any issues, hopefully they’ll be sorted out.
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Makes sense. My father used to say that you should not buy any car the first year of production for the same reason.
 
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