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Is the Fantoni CUT a poor man's Shirogorov Tetra?
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Yeah mine is tight! Also I tried to loosen the pivot and they must of used red locktite because the pivot broke the tip of my torx!
The good news is it is built like a tank and by far the sharpest S30V out of the box.
Even the Tetra doesn't flip as smooth but then these were really the earlier days... The C.U.T. essentially follows closely to the Tetra.
Yea- -they should have used something of a lesser strength given that the screw thread is quite thin relative to the pivot ends.
Heat the pivot on one side.. to loosen up the loctite. And don't use those Torx with a hollow center..
C.G. of the C.U.T. is a little farther back nearer the handle. It's not fast but once it's taken apart and tuned up a little, the action is not so shabby after all. Give it a bit of time.
Yea- -they should have used something of a lesser strength given that the screw thread is quite thin relative to the pivot ends.
Heat the pivot on one side.. to loosen up the loctite. And don't use those Torx with a hollow center..
C.G. of the C.U.T. is a little farther back nearer the handle. It's not fast but once it's taken apart and tuned up a little, the action is not so shabby after all. Give it a bit of time.
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I have had my eye on Fantoni ever since I saw the HIDE folder years ago. This August I had the good fortune to pick up a NIB C.U.T. flipper for a really good price. I agree, they did not design it to be an optimal flipper. I've took apart several times and checked the action. It is one of my favorite folders but I have struggled to get it to flip consistently. It doesn't help that I own several Shiro's, which kinda sets a high bar for flipping action.
Anyhow, after reading this thread I have determined that the lockbar is just too strong. The detent is smooth but it pushes on the blade so hard that it doesn't flip out quickly. Last night, I disassembled it again and adjusted the lockbar slightly to relieve the tension. Now it flips perfectly without effecting the detent strength or the lockup. No wiggle or movement and it fires much harder. I really like this knife and I'm definitely going to pick up an HB03 soon.
Anyhow, after reading this thread I have determined that the lockbar is just too strong. The detent is smooth but it pushes on the blade so hard that it doesn't flip out quickly. Last night, I disassembled it again and adjusted the lockbar slightly to relieve the tension. Now it flips perfectly without effecting the detent strength or the lockup. No wiggle or movement and it fires much harder. I really like this knife and I'm definitely going to pick up an HB03 soon.
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I can't take mine part. It ate one T9 bit and a new craftsman T9 driver is also twisting while in the pivot screw. I'm not sure how to heat up the pivot to loosen the red locktite without warping the G10 next to it. I guess I'll just live with the way Fantoni designed it. It is built like a tank though.
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You've inspired me to try that with my own, once a replacement pivot arrives from Fantoni. It was indeed loctited as someone else mentioned, which made it very difficult for Steve at sketchenscales to remove...though he did eventually, and to great effect, as you can see below. It's not the best flipper, but it IS the best slicer I own, and it will julienne double walled cardboard like you're peeling a wet carrot.
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Gorgeous scales... wow, it pops with that red!
Yes, this knife has an impressive grind. It reminds me of Spyderco's edge grinds, except on a much thicker, beefier blade. I carried the C.U.T. for about 3 month on and off but gave up due to the inconsistency of the flipper. The last two month I've been carrying a Shiro Hati in S90V. Well, now that I fixed the flipping issue by adjusting the lock bar tension, it's back in my pocket. Something about the design, looks, ergo, and blade shape just keep calling me. That sucks about the Loctite. There was some on mine but it wasn't completely set, so it was easier to disassemble. It flips so much better now!
Yes, this knife has an impressive grind. It reminds me of Spyderco's edge grinds, except on a much thicker, beefier blade. I carried the C.U.T. for about 3 month on and off but gave up due to the inconsistency of the flipper. The last two month I've been carrying a Shiro Hati in S90V. Well, now that I fixed the flipping issue by adjusting the lock bar tension, it's back in my pocket. Something about the design, looks, ergo, and blade shape just keep calling me. That sucks about the Loctite. There was some on mine but it wasn't completely set, so it was easier to disassemble. It flips so much better now!
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Yeah Craig, your knife was a pain in the neck! (worth it though in the end). Whoever owned it before you did a number on those screws...
The loctite comes loose pretty easily with some heat. I used a soldering iron. If the pivot screws are stripped at all though, you can't get enough torque to break them loose.
I ended up flooding the area around the most damaged screw with superglue. Once it cured I heated the other screw and broke the loctite with a sharp turn of a screwdriver. Worked like a charm.
If you're going to take apart your CUT, definitely heat the screws first and use quality torx bits.
I'm actually working on another now, and the owner had a similar problem with the pocket clip screws. Great knife otherwise!
The loctite comes loose pretty easily with some heat. I used a soldering iron. If the pivot screws are stripped at all though, you can't get enough torque to break them loose.
I ended up flooding the area around the most damaged screw with superglue. Once it cured I heated the other screw and broke the loctite with a sharp turn of a screwdriver. Worked like a charm.
If you're going to take apart your CUT, definitely heat the screws first and use quality torx bits.
I'm actually working on another now, and the owner had a similar problem with the pocket clip screws. Great knife otherwise!
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I cracked 3 heavy duty Wiha Torx bits trying to loosen that pivot.
Use a fine soldering tip.
Keep the tip inside the torx channel of the pivot screw. Keep another finger on the other pivot screw. You' ll feel it heating up after a minute or so.
I actually heard the super strong compound they use dissipating while heating it up.
Crack it loose before it hardens again.
The G10 will be fine through the process.
I love those scales too!
