Is the no profanity rule getting laxxed?

Cereal_killer

Cereal_killer

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Used to if a member (in any regular forum) said one bad word he would be asked to edit it almost immedentally and/or a mod would do it right then without asking. Over the last month of so I have seen more and more profanity left in posts, I've even seen where mods (some of the ones that were hardest on the offender) not only doing nothin, but actually engaging in convo with people throwing dirty words out there.

Now I am a blue collar guy and I talk in not-kid/grandma-appropriate-language all the time and it doesn't bother me in the least but I clean it up to comply with the rules here but I'm wondering...Do I not need to do that anymore? Of course there's a difference from dropping the F bomb 18 times a paragraph and saying [the other words for] god dang and crap and the like and I haven't seen anyone drop any f bombs [yet]. Just wondering if the policy has been dumped all together, partially, what's going on, can we use more colorful language now days? What is tolerated and what isn't (again talking specifically about forums other than W&C)?

I just want to be clear since the written rules aparently arnt...

(Please note I'm not at all arguing against the rules, I'm totally fine with "its Kevin's site and he can do what he wants", to me the rule isn't the issue, my problem is that mods seem to pick-n-choose who to come down on and what to ask be edited/removed with very little conformity from one mod to the next, even the same mod from one day to the next)
 
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There are many more posts then moderators so if you see something that you think is a problem report the post.
 
Personally I never set a no profanity rule. We're adults.
 
Weird one.

I can understand how I have got an infraction for losing my patience with a guttersnipe and swearing at him as he was rejected. Irritating but ho hum.

I was baffled by the last one though. A newbie spammer posted a thread with a link in WSS. I immediately posted a cautionary note to the effect “this is spam shit, do not click the link”, and then reported the post. The outcome = the spam thread was removed, and I got an infraction for using the word “shit”. Didn't whine about it then, and I'm not about to now. But I did think “surely we're all adults, and how's that for a kick in the teeth you ungrateful little runt”.
 
Not a mod but I would say that as long as it's tasteful, there really shouldn't be an issue. Like spark said, we're all adults. That doesn't, however, mean that we can slander one another.

So if I say, "that's a nice ass knife" I wouldn't expect an infraction. But if I call someone a stupid @$$ mother-f****er, that's another thing.
 
Moderators get into habits. The world has different societies and each society has different cultures within it. What is casual is one context can lead to problems in another. So we've been warning when we see them. We don't have to jump up and down whenever someone slips up out of context, but we don't want a serious knife discussion sidetracked with one member annoyed by another more casual. Think in terms of courtesy.

Frankly, it's a pain in the ... neck, trying to play censor, when we have spammers and scammers running around. This past year, the Exchange mods have really taken out the trash. Dishonest members have been invited to play somewhere else.

Just keep in mind, it may be no big deal to you. But I didn't speak the same in public as I did among friends on the workfloor. Try to keep this place as welcoming as possible.
 
I guess it's sorta like the age old cleavage/mini skirt dilemma.. Do you turn you're head and look or just keep on walking? :confused:
 
Esav Benyamin said:
Moderators get into habits. The world has different societies and each society has different cultures within it. What is casual is one context can lead to problems in another. So we've been warning when we see them. We don't have to jump up and down whenever someone slips up out of context, but we don't want a serious knife discussion sidetracked with one member annoyed by another more casual. Think in terms of courtesy.

Frankly, it's a pain in the ... neck, trying to play censor, when we have spammers and scammers running around. This past year, the Exchange mods have really taken out the trash. Dishonest members have been invited to play somewhere else.

Just keep in mind, it may be no big deal to you. But I didn't speak the same in public as I did among friends on the workfloor. Try to keep this place as welcoming as possible.
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Couldn't agree more. There are plenty of ways to express an opinion without being vulgar. It doesn't bother me, provided it is in the correct context. I'm not a prude by any means, but it can be hard to take someone serious when they drop curses as part of their regular vocabulary day in and day out. My other consideration is as a parent, I sometimes read the forums with my child and I don't need them to see Whine and cheese standard while reading a review of a knife or other thread. Also, some manufacturers here do not like that sort of thing in their own forums so, we try and help by pointing out slip ups and such. Just my thoughts is all.
 
skyhorse said:
I guess it's sorta like the age old cleavage/mini skirt dilemma.. Do you turn you're head and look or just keep on walking? :confused:
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:D

Businesses and people don't display things with the intention that no one should look or notice. Swearing is just another form of, Look, I'm over here!, to get your attention.
 
When a teacher admonished a kid saying, "...That's a bad word!" in my daughter's school many years back, my daughter corrected the teacher saying, "my daddy always says, "...there's no such things as bad words, just the wrong places to use them." "

She brought home a note from the teacher so I stopped in to see her the next day when I picked my daughter up. Her problem was that it's hard enough with kids these days and trying to teach them respect, let alone expect them to know when it's ok to say a** in public.

I told the teacher first off, it's not your responsibility to teach my kid respect, that she learns at home and gives it to the people that earn and deserve it, secondly have you ever heard my daughter utter an inappropriate word while at school?

She replied no, so I asked her again what was the purpose of the note, what has my daughter or myself done wrong?

She apologized for wasting my time and said if there were more parents like us she would be able to actually get down to the job of teaching instead of dealing with school politics and procedure.

I'd like to believe that most people are aware enough and in control enough to use appropriate language in the appropriate place. I've seen a few slips but for the most part I think the mods are pretty quick to correct it and move if needed any suspect threads/posts. It just seems like it takes awhile, so many threads, so few mods.

BTW, what I used to tell my daughter was, "There's no such things as bad words, just inappropriate places to use them."
 
I'm a bit curious what the official ruling on this is, if there is one. Having gotten an "Inappropriate Language" warning (which is fine, I'm not complaining) for

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Yes. They deliberately opened the can of worms by making the knife as a copy/dig at Strider and not-subltly saying so in their ad copy. So it is CS's ****storm. Little late for them to pretend it never happened.
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...that's verbatim, by the way...the asterisks were there in the original post....

...and now seeing an "s-bomb" and an "f-bomb" in one General thread...I wonder if the "family friendly rule" has been eased off.

Just don't want to say something I shouldn't, you know?
 
I enjoy and I'm very thankful for this site. I respect the rules and the Mods. But, if Spark never put forth a no profanity rule, why would the mods enforce a nonexistent rule? We are all adults here. If there isn't a no profanity rule, but mods are enforcing one, doesn't that leave too much up to interpretation of what profanity is, resulting in unnecessary warnings and infractions to members e.g. Marcinek's warning?
 
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Joe Duder said:
I respect the rules and the Mods. But, if Spark never put forth a no profanity rule, why would the mods enforce a nonexistent rule?
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Read the FAQ.

What are some of the things that can earn me a warning, infraction, or ban?

Good question. While we can't possibly list everything that you could possibly do to break the rules, here's a partial list.

Failure to follow Forum Specific Rules
Signature Rule Violation
Inappropriate Language < ---
Insulted other members < ---
Posting in the wrong forum
Bumping threads in violation to the no bump rules
Auction / Deal / Bargain Spotting
Minor spam
Trolling < ---
Racism / Bigotry / etc < ---
Selling without paying membership
Interfering with an Exchange Thread
Sassin' the Mods
Major Spam
Custom infractions
 
Dang Esav way to burst my bubble from post # 3 I was about to go around dropping f bombs like nobodys business:)
 
Adults know when and where to act appropriately. Adults also can read and follow rules.
 
I guess Spark's post can be taken several different ways. I took it as- I don't care what you say. We're all adults, we should act accordingly. IOW, profanity doesn't bother me. If that's what he meant, it would seem silly that the man upstairs doesn't care but others lower on the totem do.

Regardless of what he meant, there are rules. However, I didn't see anything on that list that warranted Marcinek's warning. I guess we should just be uber careful in the way we use asterisks or how people interpret the way we use them.
 
Hey, I have every intent on keeping my "General" language family friendly anyway (and not using punctuation marks to replace the letters in un-family friendly language). No big deal. So whether or not there is a rule in place is a purely academic question, as far as I'm concerned. And I happen to enjoy purely academic questions! :D
 
Joe Duder said:
Regardless of what he meant, there are rules. However, I didn't see anything on that list that warranted Marcinek's warning. I guess we should just be uber careful in the way we use asterisks or how people interpret the way we use them.
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What we really don't want is people getting so far out of line that the thread is derailed by insults and arguments. Stay polite, and you irritate fewer people.

As the man said: Adults know when and where to act appropriately. Adults also can read and follow rules.
 
Swearing or profanity is OK with me provided it's not targeted aggressively to another forum poster, I think that's a fair rule of thumb.

Having said that and pondering the profanity rule getting relaxed, just try writing 'damn' in the Traditional forum...you'll get whacked :D But those are the rules there, horses for courses etc.
 
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