Is the puukko still one of the best wilderness choices?

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I tend to think so.

Don't see too many sharp, hidden tang fixed blade knives anymore.

Thought I'd kick off with a splash.

After having made som kit knives, I'm thinking of learning how to make my own puukkos, only with "better" steels and stabilized wood or synthetic handles, a kind of reinterpretation.

I would still use the scandi grind, but like a 440C blade and a yellow micarta or G-10 handle, or 1095 and stabilized olive wood with a steel ferrule and and a steel end cap suitable for light hammering.

Thoughts?
 
I prefer the high carbon blades from Karesuando, Brusletto and Lauri. Especially the progressive tempered Lauri blades.
 
I tend to think so.

Don't see too many sharp, hidden tang fixed blade knives anymore.

Thought I'd kick off with a splash.

After having made som kit knives, I'm thinking of learning how to make my own puukkos, only with "better" steels and stabilized wood or synthetic handles, a kind of reinterpretation.

I would still use the scandi grind, but like a 440C blade and a yellow micarta or G-10 handle, or 1095 and stabilized olive wood with a steel ferrule and and a steel end cap suitable for light hammering.

Thoughts?


Have you looked into the Skookum...I think you are describing one in your reinterpretation.
 
Ahem, GO PATRIOTS, ahem, I second looking into Ragnar's site he's a great guy to buy from, and has served folks well with his informative and thorough website. I use a Lauri blade sometimes, as I have quite a few Scandi Mora type knives; and agree the Lauri is some of the best out there in Puuko land.
 
I've only got 1 fixed blade. It's a Puukko, handmade by AK. After I got that knife I have just never found another I thought would be better. A great knife that comes with a guarantee that it will skin 2 moose before you have to sharpen it. Great Balls afire! I cant even talk 1 moose into being skined.
 
I prefer Puukko style knives myself, as well as a lot of other people for bushcraft. If you are looking into start making them, you should check out the scandinavian blade forum at www.knifeforums.com. I don'nt think many of them make the blades, but there are a lot of talented handlers there.
 
Just found this on wikipedia, intended for millitary use. Great sheath.
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Made by Sissipuukko, It's got a secondary bevel, so not sure if it's a true puukko.
Just thought this thread needed some pics.:)
 
Made by Sissipuukko, It's got a secondary bevel, so not sure if it's a true puukko.
Just thought this thread needed some pics.:)

That's actually what I use, if I only carry one sharp object in the woods (I prefer a combination of a small axe and a smaller puukko).

I suppose the Sissipuukko is considered a "true" puukko by most Finns, even though it really doesn't look like one. It does, however, have some "puukko-like" qualitys to it :) And that leather sheat is really nice, believe me. One thing I really dislike about kydex-sheats, is the fact that during winter its really difficult to put the knife back to its sheat (under a heavy winter jacket).

Btw, the Sissipuukko is made by J.P. Peltonen at the Fiskars factory. Sissipuukko (Ranger Puukko) it's just a product name.
 
I tend to think so.

Don't see too many sharp, hidden tang fixed blade knives anymore.

Thought I'd kick off with a splash.

After having made som kit knives, I'm thinking of learning how to make my own puukkos, only with "better" steels and stabilized wood or synthetic handles, a kind of reinterpretation.

I would still use the scandi grind, but like a 440C blade and a yellow micarta or G-10 handle, or 1095 and stabilized olive wood with a steel ferrule and and a steel end cap suitable for light hammering.

Thoughts?

I would say it depends on what you intend to be doing and what else you will be bringing. If you're bringing an axe, then a puukko is just about the best possible knife to bring along for the precise work, especially on wood. Trivially easy to sharpen on the field, extremely sharp and due to the blade geometry just plain great for woodwork.

On the other hand, if you're bringing only the knife, and nothing larger and heavier, and intend to do something that requires chopping or any such heavier use, then a puukko stops being a good choice (with the obvious exception of the Lappish leukus that are much larger). The normal size puukkos were designed for general utility, from serving as an eating utensil to very precise wood working - but not chopping, prying and batoning, for which axes were used.

As far as the steels are concerned, I don't see how 440C is any better than the high carbon steels you will find on quality puukkos. In fact, I'd call it much worse in edge retention, toughness and just about everything else except for corrosion resistance, in which a stainless steel is of course superior.

The M.95 Sissipuukko Liam Ryan posted is a very well known tool here in Finland, especially in the military. It is considered a "modern" puukko, so, not traditional but a puukko nonetheless. The sheaths for Sissipuukkos are some of the best I've ever seen anywhere. The knife itself is darn good, too. Unlike traditional puukkos, it can stand heavier use well. It's mostly hand made, too - with a forged carbon steel blade. The fit and finish on those things is typically "awful", though, since it's a military utility knife not intended in the least to be pretty, only to work - if you find a sissipuukko that doesn't have more or less uneven grinds especially in the tip (which is typically ground very unevenly to one side) or the blade set slightly off-center in the handle, count yourself lucky! :D They're very inexpensive for their quality, though, at least over here. Very reliable knives, and much more agile in hand than most knives of similar blade length. A good combat and general field knife.
 
So the Finnish word for ranger is sissi?
Anyway, where can I find one, does Ragnar have them?
I want to pick up 1 or 2 traditional ones too.
 
So the Finnish word for ranger is sissi?
Anyway, where can I find one, does Ragnar have them?
I want to pick up 1 or 2 traditional ones too.

Well, it kind of is. A direct translation of "sissi" would be "guerrilla", but then, that wouldn't be accurate either, since sissi troops in Finnish army are regular, trained light infantry, that conduct guerrilla style missions behind enemy lines, from recon to sabotaging resources critical to the enemy and destroying the enemy's special force units. So, "ranger" is a decent translation for the word that does not imply that they're irregular fighters.

I'm not sure if Ragnar sells them, but I know of people who have ordered them successfully from Finland. Brisa.fi for example sells them. I believe Kellam Knives over there in the States does, too, but at a much higher price.
 
So the Finnish word for ranger is sissi?

More or less. Sissi means both ranger and a guerilla. During war time, sissi-joukot (sissi troops) operate behind enemy lines.

In every-day language "sissi" can also mean a really tough individual, i.e. the opposite of the English word "sissy" :D
 
I have done three courses with Mor Kochanski and so I have to say yes...The Pukko is the way to go. One of my favourites is this one...

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Self made with a massive Brusletto blade from Ragnar's Forge. I used a peice of hickory from a sledge hammer for the handle along with brass and some birch bark spacers along with a disc of caribou antler.

The scandi grind works wood better than any other grind, the fixed bevel making a great plane locking into the wood for a consistent angle of attack. It's also easy to sharpen shaving sharp with no fuss.

Mors himself has helped one of his students with knife design. Rod Garcia makes the Skookum Bush tool already mentioned. It's a through tang and very strong. The lack of a gaurd bothers some but Mors has claimed that in 30+ years of teaching students knife work he has never seen anyone cut themselves by slipping off the handle. To him a guard is an abomination...though I still add a small one for at least it's psychological effect to knives I make.

Here are three early versions of the Skookum. I can't remember where this shot came from but these might be the three prototypes that Mors brought to our course. Garcia uses O1, A2 and CPM 3V as his main steels. I like the A2
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The Pukko is the way to go. One of my favourites is this one...

27072BruslettoM2.JPG

Self made with a massive Brusletto blade from Ragnar's Forge. I used a peice of hickory from a sledge hammer for the handle along with brass and some birch bark spacers along with a disc of caribou antler.

Is that a "mystery blade"?
 
kellam knives handles the sissi puukko and the NEW small version which would be a better woodcrafter imo. i would call first as stock was in limited supply on the new model.
 
Ok, I just had to take a picture of my puukko :) I've been using this one for years.

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I have maybe ~20 knives at the moment, and if I'd have to choose just one that I could keep, it would be this.
 
Ok, I just had to take a picture of my puukko :) I've been using this one for years.

kauhavan_rauta.jpg


I have maybe ~20 knives at the moment, and if I'd have to choose just one that I could keep, it would be this.

Care to tell us what knife that is? Is it a rehandle or a stock blade from ?manufacurer?
 
Care to tell us what knife that is? Is it a rehandle or a stock blade from ?manufacurer?

Yeah, sure. It's made by Pentti Kivimäki, Kauhava Finland. I bought it about seven years ago from the maker himself. Unfortunately I'm not sure wheter he has done the blade himself or not. I believe this model is still available somewhere, at least I saw one a couple of years ago at a Finnish hunting show. Also, at the same show, there were identical puukko-blades on sale from the same manufacturer (bought a few), so at least nowadays this blade is also sold separately.

What really makes this one kinda special, is the handle.

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