Is this a clone?

jlauffer said:
Looks real to me. And haven't seen any with fake lamination lines.
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Thanks, the sheath looks right too I think, not sure about that nylon strap though. Fingers crossed that this is what I will get and no unseen problems.

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rycen said:
You like to gamble don’t you?
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Some times. Not his time though I think( OK fingers crossed), I just needed my thoughts reinforced by someone who knows them. The only cloned lamination lines I have seen over the years was so obvious it was laughable. Unless there is something bad that I can't see in all of the pictures(there are more) I will be very happy. The sheath in good shape sells for more than I paid for it, $124.00. You may be right though.
 
Sorry didn’t mean to imply it’s a fake. I don’t think it but better pics would help. You really think the sheath is worth more than the knife?
 
nephron said:
Some times. Not his time though I think( OK fingers crossed), I just needed my thoughts reinforced by someone who knows them. The only cloned lamination lines I have seen over the years was so obvious it was laughable. Unless there is something bad that I can't see in all of the pictures(there are more) I will be very happy. The sheath in good shape sells for more than I paid for it, $124.00. You may be right though.
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Awesome score for $124!:thumbsup: And yeah, wouldn't be surprised to see real Magnum Tanto leather sheaths go for more than that.

Guessing the strap was an add-on.
 
rycen said:
Sorry didn’t mean to imply it’s a fake. I don’t think it but better pics would help. You really think the sheath is worth more than the knife?
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I thought you were half joking, my response was an attempt to do the same lol.
Those sheaths are like hen's teeth, they can command high prices and of course the knife without it sells for significantly less.
 
jlauffer said:
Awesome score for $124!:thumbsup: And yeah, wouldn't be surprised to see real Magnum Tanto leather sheaths go for more than that.

Guessing the strap was an add-on.
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Been regretting trading the one I bought off of you, now I have both makers of the SM, both bought in the last few weeks. Weird the way it works out sometimes.
 
nephron said:
I was thinking real but listed as reproduction clone.

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Unless that lamination line is somehow etched in , I can't see how this could be fake .

I'm not an expert to advise anyone on a purchase , but for myself I might risk a try .

Trouble is , if seller lists as a clone , not really right to return for that reason , IMO .

PS Edit : Why would seller list it as a clone and take a loss ? Usually its the other way around !
 
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Fingers crossed the pictures(not the best)didn't show the real condition and he sends the one in the pictures not a real clone. Supposed to be here tomorrow(not holding my breath though). I will post pictures.
Merry Christmas
 
nephron said:
I was thinking real but listed as reproduction clone
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sometimes for whatever reason known only to a seller,
photographs of "stand-ins" are used
for illustrative purposes
as a means to represent
whatever that is being sold.
sometimes we take things
for granted and presume...
so, unless a seller categorically states that "what you see is what
you get",
could one safely presume
that the photographs shown
are those of the actual object being listed for sale,
considering that it was listed
as a clone to begin with?
i hope its turns out to be
a joyful merry christmas
gamble with a happy ending.
btw, the fakes and
clones are like really soft 420j ss
 
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hermit dave said:
I have had a lot of these in hand (all different lengths). The pictured knife is absolutely authentic!
The only risk is if the seller does a bait-and-switch.
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Yeah , that happens , but would be a valid reason to demand return and full refund.

Assuming some site like Ebay and / or PayPal payment .

Just a lot of time and energy wasted . :mad:
 
DocJD said:
Yeah , that happens , but would be a valid reason to demand return and full refund.

Assuming some site like Ebay and / or PayPal payment .

Just a lot of time and energy wasted . :mad:
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Correct, I gamble sometimes but there are limits. I just hope it doesn't have that sticky feeling Kraton, that I have never been able to make better. I have only seen a couple though out of maybe 50-60 vintage ones.
 
Just out of curiosity and to hone my powers of deduction , I found OP original sale listing .

Checked out all the stuff I normally would , except to contact the seller , which I would have in this case, given time .

I didn't see any obvious pattern of fraud .

I looked at sellers SOLD items listed as" knife" and they varied wildly with no repeats .

Doesn't specialize in knives or anything else . More like general pawn shop miscellaneous mix .

Seller did not seem expert of CS or anything else and may just not have known and just said it was a clone to be safe ?

IDK ? Could go either way .
 
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You are spot on, obviously you are a dabbler too. I checked him out, especially with some negative feedback(same conclusion as me). I actually did not notice the the clone thing until after purchase. I was too busy blowing up the pictures and going over feedback. Contacting him would have been a good idea.
 
It came and I am very happy. Original edge, still sharp, tip pointy sharp. Surpringly no pitting or corrosion, a minor miracle on the leather sheathed models. Have seen quite a few where the owner stored it in the sheath(especially in humid climates)and pitting etc. The guard has acouple of minor dings that can be fixed easily. The handle was filthy but cleaned up great with no wear marks. The sheath is not shiny like new but again surprisingly damage free. Whew! Will post pictures later.
 
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