Is This a Genuine 124?

2manyknives

2manyknives

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Hi folks - seeking some advice from the Buck experts about this knife. It appears to be a 124 although is not marked as such. The only markings are "Buck Custom USA and the anvil which I assume is the 2002 year marking.

The knife is well made and beautifully polished.

There are two things that raised some doubts in my mind. The first is the sheath. It seems well made and fits the knife perfectly but has no markings, and a basketweave pattern on the front. I have not seen Bucks with this sheath type before. The second thing is the stag. Overall, it is not a bad piece of stag but has a very noticeable flaw near the pommel - it seems strange that a custom shop would fit a piece of stag like that.

Perhaps I am over reacting but would appreciate any advice or opinions.

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Well, 2many, the other side of the knife blade should have some numbers up near the spine such as xxx/1000. Those are there, right?
The knife, from what I can tell in the pictures, is in fact the Buck 124 Limited Edition of 2006 with the run being 1000 produced, hence the xxx/1000. The anvil is somewhat enigmatic standing for both '02 and/or the Custom Shoppe as we know it now. Flaw? Natural marking is the correct term. It doesn't appear to be a flaw or indented, only more porous. Is the joint between the pommel and stag smooth?
The sheath, on the other hand, is an after-market deal. It looks very nicely crafted however, but I am not aware of that particular sheath accompanying the knife from the Buck Factory. Nice find....enjoy it!

Dave
 
It appears to be the real deal. Sheath, as statedby Dave, is not a Buck sheath (bit nice).


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From Dave: "the other side of the knife blade should have some numbers up near the spine such as xxx/1000. Those are there, right?"

Dave - thanks for the reply. Definitely nothing on the other side of the blade - it is completely clear.

Pete
 
Hey 2manyknives, interesting that your's doesn't have a number stamp (mine is 858/1000 and can be seen, but not discerned, in the SPAM pic).
My stag at the pommel is diff too. The one in your pic looks like it was cut down through the stag to fit. Not a flaw to me, as you agree. The porous section is inherent with cutting into the stag.

I have a 110 Damascus Stag here on my desk that exhibits that trait (stag being cut down to fit and mate where the metal hits). Look near the red liner of the pic below...
Is this what you mean?

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Buckaholic - yeah, its pretty much the same thing as in your pic but a lot more noticeable.

Pete
 
2manyknives said:
...but has a very noticeable flaw near the pommel - it seems strange that a custom shop would fit a piece of stag like that.
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I think you're referring to the "pith" (the core of the antler)...It is porous as commented above, and is much softer than the outer hard layer of the antler...When fitting the antler to the tang, the pith is often exposed...

The Custom Shop works with what they are given...If yours was QC rejected because of the pith, that might explain the absence of serial number...

Aftermarket knife manglers also fit custom grips...Yours may be one that was custom gripped and polished...

Some discarded pith layers are recycled for scaling after the outer layer has been used...they are called "second cut"...The second cut scales are sometimes jigged, stained, or burned to simulate the outer layer...Or buffed to a high shine...

Many knifemakers soak the pith in SuperGlue to make it harder...

...My $.02...DarrylS must be rich from all these $.02 nuggets of information...
 
A good thick coating of epoxy on that will seal it right up,then just buff it out and it will be as good as new.
 
chickentrax said:
The Custom Shop works with what they are given...If yours was QC rejected because of the pith, that might explain the absence of serial number...
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Yep, 'Trax has one explaination! Additionally, 2many, that might explain the non-Factory sheath. The knife was QC'ed out, but not destroyed or recycled or scrapped and one way or another salvaged. It would not receive a factory sheath or box or serial number or even an "FB" stamp for factory blemish but it is a fully-functional knife afterall so..........
A sheath was commissioned and it is ready for use however you choose. Same steel, same handle material, sheath, sharp(?). Pretty cool woods loafing/ hunting knife iffin' ya' ask me!

Dave
 
chickentrax said:
...My $.02...DarrylS must be rich from all these $.02 nuggets of information...
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:cool:...AHHHH...Love those .02 worth comments Trax...:D...Workin' towards a down payment on a "Hummer" and if'n I get it I'll consider the drive to Post Falls this July...:p
 
stumplump said:
Is it possible to buy a genuine "Buck" made in China
or did I get ripped off?
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Sure is possible! And at the price the off-shore-Bucks sell for I hardly think you got 'taken'. The China Buck line-up of knives still go through the USA factory for Quality Control/ packaging and come with the Buck 4-ever warranty too!
Which model did you buy? I am thinking mighty hard on picking up a 'user' 221 Buck bait knife with its titanium coating. Hard to go wrong for a twenty dollar bill, huh?

Dave
 
Oh, and one other thing, stumplump. About 65% of the entire Buck Knives line-up is still 'good ole USA' born and bred!

Dave
 
So the Chinese are genuine Buck's that's great news!
Have a 870XB Tanto.
I've seen some advertised as made in Canada too.
Do you know if there is any document or list that reports out by Model # / country of manufacture?
 
Trax, thanks for the specifics of the wording for the stag charateristic "pitch" and your post overall.

I knew someone that knew what they were talking about would chime in. I replied and posted cuz I like to show off pics of my grandkids. That 110NS is a Musky. I miss MuskRatMan.

If it were a factory reject or second, wouldn' it be stamped "FB" (Factory Blemish)? Such as below. Or maybe it is a lunch box knife.


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Well, this is ain't a "for three people you get free egg roll" thread...lots of ChiBuck threads in this forum. But yes, rots of Bucks are made in China.
 
Buckaholic said:
Trax, thanks for the specifics of the wording for the stag charateristic "pitch" and your post overall.

I knew someone that knew what they were talking about would chime in.
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It's "pith"...and I read it somewhere else when I was ordering antler material... :D
 
chickentrax said:
It's "pith"...and I read it somewhere else when I was ordering antler material... :D
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Correct. It is "pith". The softer spongy portion near the center. Like Tootsie pop...how many licks/cuts until ya get to the center.

Wish I knew where my USMC Pith Helmet I got at Subic Bay, Philippines is.
 
If it is made in china will it still say U.S.A on the blade? how do you tell if its made in china?
 
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