Is this a legit concern about integral locks?

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Geoff in Philly

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I have owned 2 handmade sebbies, (really, the originals from the 80's), 2 production versions and 2 BM Pinnacles. I sold all of them in part b/c I never liked the way the frame lock could be shifted when tightly holding the handle. Specifically, with the blade locked open, I could easily shift the lock upwards toward the top of the handle. Then, it took far less force to push the frame lock away from its locked position. This experience occured even with mundane chores, ie slicing line, whittling a fire stick, cutting heavy cardboard. Have you noticed the same phenomenon? I mention all this b/c I just saw DDR's new collaboration and would immediately order if I were not so dubious of the vertical movement I have experienced in 6 knives of this design. BTW, my axis locks have all done the same chores as mentioned above without flinching, so I dont think I was abusing the frame locks. You got to see Ralph's new design in What's New....
 
So I just pulled a large Sebenza from my pocket, locked it open, and did everything I could to shift the lock anywhere anyhow. No go. Who are you, the Terminator?
 
I did the same thing as Esav and I can't figure out what you are talking about. I can't disengage the lock unintentionally no matter how I try. Perhaps you could explain what you are doing in greater detail.
 
I can move my large Seb's lock bar upward a bit with my thumb, and my small Seb's even more. Can do the same with my Apogee and liner lock EDC. Doesn't really do anything at all to any of them except the Apogee-it wedges the lock tighter. Try it with a liner lock if you want to see some real movement.
Don't see that it means anything. The lock isn't going to disengage unless you push the lock bar sideways off the tang-just like they're designed to...
 
He means pusing the framelock, the bar itself, North/south instead of how you disengaged it normally east/west. With the locked knife, you pull the blade upwards with your finger, then move the lock away from the tang/ramp. It obvioulsy depends on the amount of wear in the lock, and I only did this a few times to my sebenza (now gone) but I used to try often but it wouldn't go. Mine used to gall quite a bit and sometimes getting it to budge upwards would start it on its way out. The BM's I owned before the sebenza were much easier to do this too, that is why I kept trying on the sebenza. Doesen't mean the lock isn't awesome. Anyone wanna try on their TNT and get back to us? I heard those things are indestructable (sp?).

JC
 
Never noticed any problems with my sebi's, Pinnicle or Mnandi.

Quite the opposite in fact, they are as sound as a Dollar Pound.:p
 
If you're worried about it, try this. First take your grip however you're doing it to move the lockbar. Then, stick the blade somewhere where it's held relatively well. A vice is overkill but might make you feel better -- I sometimes just stab the point hard into soft wood. Now, with the lock bar moved and the blade relatively immobilized, torque the blade this way and that, especially counterclockwise (if you're a righty). If that movement of the lockbar is compromising anything, you should be able to feel it on counterclockwise torque (clockwise for a lefty using a lefty-style knife).

Joe
 
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