Is This A Talon Hole?

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Sethrotull brought up this question, and it had never occurred to me before.

It's not circular, but it's in the same spot as a talon hole

thoughts?

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zImsKee said:
Let's just call it a flipper and everyone's happy
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LOL. i hope you're right, cause that's the knife that i just bought :P

I already have one custom with a genuine, no doubt, talon hole, and i don't want to get in the habit of buying things of that sort.

This one never occurred to me as being a potential talon hole because it doesn't LOOK like one, but it's a hole in the guard, and that's kinda the definition of one.
 
I, personally, think that a lot of you guys like to look at things from a far too bureaucratic point of view. I think the whole idea of copyrighting the talon hole is to keep people from copying one off the trademarks of Busse Combat, not to keep any knife maker from putting any kind of hole in that general area of a knife.

It's a hole in a knife, if its too close to a certain spot of a knife then sound the alarm and the layers will come running! Seriously, its obviously not a rip off of Busse's trademark so I think it's a non-issue.
 
Wow I never knew one simple question could lead to a hasty generalization about most busse owners.
 
zImsKee said:
Wow I never knew one simple question could lead to a hasty generalization about most busse owners.
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Hmmm, well I didn't mean to offend you, but it's obvious the designer of this knife didn't have Busse Combat in mind when he made the knife. Could it be defined as a Talon hole? I would imagine yes it could, but the idea of copyrighting something is to protect your intellectual property, not to keep every one else in a given industry from doing certain things that can fall under a relatively broad description. I'm not sure if Jerry could legally call that copyright infringement or not, but if he could and did claim that this is a case of copyright infringement I would be very disappointed and extremely shocked.

I'm not trying to be a jerk, and apologize if I come across that way, but I have strong beliefs and I am rater headstrong. Also this IS a discussion board.
 
It's no a copyright it's a trademark.


Goods and Services IC 008. US 023 028 044. G & S: HUNTING KNIVES, SURVIVAL KNIVES, AND UTILITY KNIVES. FIRST USE: 19881231. FIRST USE IN COMMERCE: 19881231
Mark Drawing Code (2) DESIGN ONLY
Design Search Code 110125
Serial Number 76172212
Filing Date November 28, 2000
Current Filing Basis 1A
Original Filing Basis 1A
Published for Opposition May 28, 2002
Registration Number 2679735
Registration Date January 28, 2003
Owner (REGISTRANT) Busse Knife Co. CORPORATION OHIO 11651 County Road 12 Wauseon OHIO 43567
Attorney of Record Thomas W Epting
Description of Mark The mark consists of a hole in the rearward portion of the blade.
Type of Mark TRADEMARK
Register PRINCIPAL-2(F)
Live/Dead Indicator LIVE

And I am sure Jerry will chime in shortly.
 
@DNA. No I don't think that is a talon hole. In my opinion it's far from it. It's a flipper folding knife with the flipper milled out to match the design of the knife itself. I woul be surprised it anything came from this. I don't think you could classify that as the guard of the knife. It is the dedicated flipper. Just my thoughts.
 
BePrepared said:
LOL. i hope you're right, cause that's the knife that i just bought :P

I already have one custom with a genuine, no doubt, talon hole, and i don't want to get in the habit of buying things of that sort.

This one never occurred to me as being a potential talon hole because it doesn't LOOK like one, but it's a hole in the guard, and that's kinda the definition of one.
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ahhh.... You just wanted to showoff your new toy and make us jealous :p good job
 
http://www.trademarkia.com/logo-76172212.html
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The trademark description doesn't give an identification for what shape the hole is, however, there is an image that goes along with the trademark application. In this image a basic 3 is shown with a circular hole set into the gaurd itself. If Jerry was going to try to trademark any hole, he would have been better served with a more general description and less specific image. Because the image presents a perfectly circular hole, claiming infringement when a knifemaker uses a triangular hole would likely be difficult for him to defend in court, where a circular hole in a circular gaurd is very easy to defend based on the image provided.
 
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