Is this Blasphemous?

ElCuchillo

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Ok, so, as I learn more about myself and my tastes in pocketknives, I find that I am not too fond of the classic Yeller handles. I know that's quite a statement to make around here, but it's not the color that bothers me. It's the slick, smooth handles. I like something I can grip onto. I was using my CV Stockman the other day at work, and had wet, slimy hands (I was cutting a net out in the main gator lake), and the knife slipped out of my hand. I managed to locate it again, but, the fact that my hand was slippery and the delrin smooth as a baby's bottom make for a bad combination. I have done the same with my Bone Stag Peanut, and it never happened. I always felt secure holding it because the uneven stag makes for a good grip. Same with my Alox Wenger SI and Vic Cadet. Those aren't going anywhere. My red handled SAK was not as slippery as my Yeller feller, but still slippery. However, it has a lanyard hole to make up for it. My yeller Stockman and Yeller Soddie Jr. always feel like they are going to slip.
Anyone else feel this way?
 
Fish slime & water make for an insecure grip.The mates I know who clean Blackfish here,the slimy-est of slimy-est,prefer a wood handle fillet,over the newfangled grippy plastic (even with the grips)
But most slips,the wood has a polish,too
Maybe you can get one of these slipjoint modifying guys to put on some bead blasted scales,like G-10,that's the grippiest I've seen
The grippiest stuff I have on any slipjoint is canvas micarta
-Vince
 
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Not blasphemous at all, just personal preference.
I can understand your point, I prefer jigged bone above almost anything, but that just me.
Some take a dremel to the smooth yeller scales and add groves. (I bet your gonna see some pictures real soon ;))

peter
 
If I haven't jumped all over the Yeller handled band wagon in the past, now you know why. Don't get me wrong, I still like giving them a little pocket time now and then but in most cases the natural handles always win out over the smooth synthetics every time. Some of the canvas Micarta scales like Vince mentions are good.

However, to me, nothing beats natural scales for a water and blood mixture. Stag, jigged Bone, Wood and even Pearl. And you would think MOP scales would get slick but add some water to your hand and play around with a knife with pearl scales to see what I mean. The most grippiest natural scales out there hands down (as I mentioned in another thread here a while back) for your water soaked and bloody mitts is Rams Horn scales. They actually seem to grip better in the above mentioned condition.
 
I've also heard,that Ivory,w/wet,is like real grippy
I don't know how true this is,but I heard,that in the old west,gunfighters used Ivory for a secure pistol grip,in hot sweaty climates,as this was what was available at the time
 
How about jigged yellow bone? Doesn't Moore Maker go in for that and even CASE with some corn cob scales I seem to recall? Yellow looks very good and can be found when dropped but I take your point about them being over slippery. Yellow handles looks authentic in my view.
 
ElCuchillo you were right though it is blasphemous. No way I would take a yellow handled knife into a gator lake,I would take a yellow handled GUN.:eek::eek:
 
Rough it up some. Lots of ways to do that -- delrin is a flexible material, and easy to work. Files, sandpaper, put grooves in it -- some makers jig it to look like bone. Or just get some new scales put on it that you like better.
 
Why not jig the yellow delrin?

Somebody here did a nice edge scaloping on a yellow peanut and sodbuster, I can't recall right now who. Maybe they'll post in a bit.

I say modify the yellow delrin.
 
I've also heard,that Ivory,w/wet,is like real grippy. I don't know how true this is,but I heard,that in the old west,gunfighters used Ivory for a secure pistol grip,in hot sweaty climates,as this was what was available at the time

This was/is true. It would appear that God has already provided us knife knuts with all the slippage free material in natural form that we could ever want or need, whether on the hoof or growing out of the soil, its all their for the taking, and beautiful to behold as well!.:thumbup:
 
ElCuchillo you were right though it is blasphemous. No way I would take a yellow handled knife into a gator lake,I would take a yellow handled GUN

Uh... If he shoots the alligators, he's unemployed!

I wonder if you could modify the smooth delrin with a sawcut patter, like the Old Timers? They are slippery at all. Of course you'd still be stuck with a yellow knife. :D
 
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sunnyd,

Nailed it!

Natural materials are best, so what does man do?
He tries to replicate, he gets close, still can never do what is natural.

I like the yellow, as I can see it, and the Delrin is pretty impervious to chemicals, and takes being dropped with less chance of breaking.

Tools for tasks in environment.
is another key to not just knives, any tool.

My yellow handles have "character", some call these dings, nicks, and scratches.
Some are naturally occurred, then again I admit, I might take a emery board and smooth up a spot which leaves it rough, or do so on purpose.

Buck and Old Timer use Delrin as well, and they both have fine lines to add purchase to a knife.



I like natural materials, ivory is grippy, even when wet.
Boker Rosewood is another material I like, and for me has worked very well, on the Tree brand small pen knife [8288i ?] and 240 , and others in that line.
I like the Carbon steel, the rosewood, the etched blade.

I like the Case CV in Amber bone, and the Red bone, I wish they did more offerings in handles for CV blades.
Being honest, I feel Case has forgotten users, and focus on collectors, which I understand having to make money, still this upsets me.


Right now with all sorts of things from the past, and more recent past, my little yeller peanut with CV is what I have. I have a history with the Peanut, and not just the yeller handles.

Mother Nature and Disasters have taken from me so much, and I don't have any of what I used to.
All my customs are gone, all my ivory , stag, and bone are gone.
I had some off site in places, and maybe I still have some yellow ones, but if not, I have a yeller cv Peanut.
My other YH CVs are gone, Barehead Slimline Trapper, Mini-Trapper, Sodbuster Jr, even my sentimental Peanuts, and back up Peanuts.

I am in the experiment still, as I it really is not an experiment for having used one for so many years, just now on another Peanut, and this one is more sentimental (if there is such a thing) than the sentimental one lost in the last Tornadoes that ripped through here.

Oh I have thought about a Red Bone Peanut with CV just...right now, so much is gone and not a priority.
Tornadoes got some sentimental guns of mine recently, I was Lucky and one was fine, in its spot in that off site place.
That was the only one, as I lost quite a few guns at that location.

I was fussed at to take care of me, and go check on my stuff, though I wanted to assist others.
There will always be someone worse off and better off than I.

So right now it is not a priority on some things.
I miss what is gone, and can't feel to replace them, as there is no way to have the attachment what I had with replacements.
I miss the people now passed , and I cannot put the memories into a new, just make new ones.


I have really given serious thought to not carrying a yh cv Peanut, as so much negative has occurred since January when the experiment started.
Mr. Murphy hates me, and again he has brought so much negative into my life , and finding something I care about to hurt me.


So I have been pressing on, and it hurt to lose that sentimental Peanut, and it hurt too my guns twisted, and bent and having to be destroyed.

I get with the bunch I run with, and I pass on to a kid with YH SAk Classic how it is slippery, but maybe doing it this way will work better.
Hers was new, too shiny and not "broke in" like my Peanut, or other knives.
So we used it, and then hurried up the character.

I stuck in a cigar box with some coins, screws, washers and shook it.
Then we cleaned it up and it has "character" and not as slippery when wet.

Handles of MOP scratch and break.
Bone and Stag crack and break too.
Metal is hot in the summer and cold in the winter, and is slippery.

There is no absolutes in all this.
Inspect, and Maintain is the key.

Humans have for some reason gotten lazy and spoiled, and in a search for a easier softer way.
There is no Holy Grail, but humans keep searching for one, or trying to make one.

Nature provides the answer to so many of life's questions, just we humans do not pay attention and learn from what is proven.

We want a knife that we don't have to sharpen, will not rust, have patina, a handle that is good looking and we keep running to the newest steel and this, that and the other.

Animals have tools for tasks for environments and they don't run to the next latest greatest.
Neither do trees, or anything else natural.

Oh there is nothing blasphemy in adapting to environment, Animals and Trees for instance are equipped for settings and they too adapt to environments as needed.

Sometimes we humans are in a hurry going nowhere.
 
I don't have a problem with the COLOR yellow. Just the fact that it is so slippery and not practical in the environment I work with. Maybe I will jig it up with my dremel. Hmmm........ something to think about.
 
Steve -- tried to send you a pm at thehighroad, but couldn't. Sent you a visitor message on your profile page here.
 
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Maybe I will jig it up with my dremel.

Oh no you don't!
This here the traditional sub-forum. *wink*

Them gators you mess with don't plug themselves into wall out and use AC to swish them tails to knock over things, or work them jaws, so you ain't gonna plug up some Dremel to rough up a smooth handle.

If your are not sure of your hand skills, I got an unique idea for you.
Just perfect for you.

You do have some of them itty bitty alligators about the size of your hand- correct?
Well gators are rough skinned and the itty bitty gators have itty bitty teeth.

Stick the Peanut into that glass case the itty bitty gators are in and let them rough it up, naturally.

Just stand there and watch, and check the progress until you get the rough finish you want.
Only fitting, since you did skin a gator with a Peanut and all.


Talk about one-upping the new and fangled knife making bunch with them machined "grippy" handles they have...

*ta-da*
 
Holy crap, Steve, I never thought of that!!! I absolutely can let the gators chew on my Yeller Stockman for a little while. We have three footers, two footers, which would do a better job then the little ones. I'll go in the water with them and let them have at it. After all, my daughter bit into and marked my SAK Super Tinker for ever, why not have the gators do the same to my Stockman!! Cool idea.
 
It is blasphemy, and you have started a schism in the ranks of the slipjoint Sub-forum!!



I have never had this problem myself, but your reasons are sound>
 
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One of the best natural slip resistant materials for knife handles is Oosiks. This was a favorite of natives of Alaska. Don't ask me how they discovered it.

Sm2, sounds like you been through a lot. God Bless you. May you be strenghtened in the Lord.
 
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