Is this do-able with just files?

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Ok, I think I've decided on this design.
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My next question. How hard/easy will this be with just using files? Reason I am asking is I am thinking about selling a gun to buy a grizzly knife grinder.
 
Hard/easy is a very relative call. It is certaintly doable with files if you want a flat grind. If you want a hollow grind you will have to go to a belt grinder. I file knives and while it is hard work it goes quickly and I find it satisfying. Other people I could name find filing knives a real pain in the *** and not worth the effort.
As far as I'm concerned files are a whole lot cheaper than a Wilton square wheel or Bader. As far as the Grizzly goes, well you'll find mixed reviews in here, some love 'em and some will never do business with them again. Basically you get what you pay for! Try and find someone with one you can use before you buy one and see if you like it. -Guy T.
 
NO!!!!!! Run away from Grizzly!!!
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I am actually thinking of using the grizz grinder part and sending the motor back. $150 for contact wheel, arm, tensioner, platen, etc..everything but the motor is a good price! I will of course modify it with a pulley system for variable speed and get a different motor. Yes, it can be done with hand files, but it will take a very long time. Koval knife has a few lower cost grinders, like the kalamazoo ones and the procut2 for $500. It all depends on how much you have and what you have access to. I know a machinsit who will help me modufy/rebuild the grizzly, so that is fine for me. The grizz will basically be for low cost parts until I can afford a real grinder. If you want to know what happened to the grizz, do a search for grizzly or under my name. I had several posts about it. basically bad motor they didnt want to replace, but would want me to send it back 2 times instead for repair before i could use it.

where r u from? if you are in Ct or near there, i would say come on down!

Hollow grinding makes a thinner edge for easier cutting and multiple reshaprening. Flat grind and convex grind leave a thickjer edge, so after several re sharpeneings, the edge is very thick and needs to be reground. I like a good flat grind myself and it wil slice better. Hollow would be good for the back edge to think it out, and a flat grind on the main blade bevel would be nice IMHO. Hollow grind also will affect the balance of the blade and make it lighter since it removes more metal than flat or convex grinding. Good luck!
 
i like the design changes. as far as the grizzly go,s i think taz is their new public relations man. LOL sorry taz i just had to! by the way e-mail me about what you are thinking of selling? i am interested.

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Laurence Segal www.RHINOKNIVES.com
 
Making your first knife with files is the way to go. You will appreciate your tools more when you get them.
When using a file to profile a blade use thin stock no more than a 1/8 inch and keep the design simple. Stay away from the double edge blades.
When picking your blade material you should know who or how to heat treat the blade.

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Ray Murski
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Anything you can make with a grinder you can make with a file or stones. Including hollow grinds. It's just slower, that's all.

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[This message has been edited by lively (edited 11-14-2000).]
 
I say Go FOR IT!

If you need any tips just email me at jknives@gamewood.net

Below is one of several dagger blades that I have filed. This one has a 10 inch blade of 1/4 inch thick 440C. It took a few hours to do but was well worth the effort.

I'm going to have to finish this knife one of these days.

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Phillip Jones
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[This message has been edited by Phillip Jones (edited 11-14-2000).]
 
Those are awesome Phillip! What do you mean by draw filing? Do you mean filing towards you or something else? How do you hold it while you are filing? Do you use a device of some kind?

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[This message has been edited by lively (edited 11-15-2000).]
 
Tim,

Here is a link for you. I explained this in length a while back.

I hold the file handle in my right hand and the tip of the file in my left. I then do a push stroke. Much like Tai Goo does with his scraper in the Neo-Tribal video.
If doing a pull stroke or drawing the file towards you, you should hold the file handle in your left hand and the tip in your right hand. The teeth are angled on a file and only cut while going in one direction like a saw.
http://www.bladeforums.com/ubb/Forum12/HTML/001724.html

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Phillip Jones
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