Is this for real?

The Hindenburg fire is now thought to be initiated by the metal oxide skin of the craft, not the hydrogen gas.
 
Dave , the skin was fabric which was painted .It was the paint that caused the fire . This was apparently known to the germans but since it was a pet project of Hitler's it was ignored . Documents to this effect have been found and the high flammability of the paint demonstrated !
 
Breaks down water to make hydrogen gas...Using electricty. How does that solve anything, Is he getting the electricity for free? Do the gas produce more energy then used to produce it?

Sounds like a pipe dream.


Paul
 
Hmmm. I'm really tempted to raise the BS flag on this one, as well. My initial thought when viewing the cutting torch segment was the same as pcnorton's; okay, this thing is powered by water, and oh yeah 1500 megawatts of electricity. ;)

The car application is a bit more interesting as it would seem to be a closed system, but as they say, if it sounds too good to be true...
 
One of the basic laws of physics is, "There's no such thing as a free lunch." While I'm perfectly sure that you can fuel a fireplace from water using electricity via electrolysis to break the water into hydrogen (very flamable) and oxygen (a strong oxidizer), it's not economical to do so.

Now, we do a lot of things in our lives that aren't economical just because they're fun. Most fireplaces fall into that category; most are decorative and not intended to be an economical source of heat.
 
Yes there are also laws saying you only get out what you put in. YOU being the key word here. It would be silly to say that scientists put all the energy into the bombs they dropped on Japan, they didnt, they just found a way to release it.

Big oil, auto makers and other people that have a vested interest in oil and not your health or quality of life, will make sure this gets quashed.

Isnt it amazing how only a 100 year old technology is the only viable source of power? What a crock!

I hope this guy gets some money from countries that dont have loads of dollars in foreign reserves or oil of their own.

There was another invention by an amateur Brit chemist that made an insulator so effective it was insane. He would hold live demos by painting it on a packet of butter, letting it set (a few seconds) and then put a welding torch on it. No change whatsoever. He also put it on a raw egg, put the welder on it for about 5 minutes, immediately picked it up and craked it with his bare hands and it was still raw, not even a hint of white. Think what that could do for buildings (Trade center for example) firemens clothing, wall coverings, the uses are almost limitless. The UK wouldnt give him the 10 Million he wanted, neither would NASA. 10Mil sounds like peanuts to me considering the cost of 1 shuttle that could have been saved. Oh yeah, at NASA they tried to steal a sample, he got pretty pissed but got them back when it reflected so much heat back from a laser it melted it.

Edited to add; Link http://www.alternativescience.com/flame-proof.htm
 
Temper said:
Yes there are also laws saying you only get out what you put in. YOU being the key word here. It would be silly to say that scientists put all the energy into the bombs they dropped on Japan, they didnt, they just found a way to release it.

Big oil, auto makers and other people that have a vested interest in oil and not your health or quality of life, will make sure this gets quashed.

Isnt it amazing how only a 100 year old technology is the only viable source of power? What a crock!

I hope this guy gets some money from countries that dont have loads of dollars in foreign reserves or oil of their own.

There was another invention by an amateur Brit chemist that made an insulator so effective it was insane. He would hold live demos by painting it on a packet of butter, letting it set (a few seconds) and then put a welding torch on it. No change whatsoever. He also put it on a raw egg, put the welder on it for about 5 minutes, immediately picked it up and craked it with his bare hands and it was still raw, not even a hint of white. Think what that could do for buildings (Trade center for example) firemens clothing, wall coverings, the uses are almost limitless. The UK wouldnt give him the 10 Million he wanted, neither would NASA. 10Mil sounds like peanuts to me considering the cost of 1 shuttle that could have been saved. Oh yeah, at NASA they tried to steal a sample, he got pretty pissed but got them back when it reflected so much heat back from a laser it melted it.

Edited to add; Link http://www.alternativescience.com/flame-proof.htm
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Just a quick note:

The amount of energy required to rip a water molecule apart is the EXACT SAME AMOUNT as is released when it's reformed (by burning hydrogen in oxygen). This is not a sustainable closed system, because there will always be parasitic losses, and you'll always end up transferring energy somewhere that you don't want it.

Sure, you could plug in your water powered car at home, and it would convert water into hydrogen and oxygen, and then when you drove, it would burn them, but where do you get the energy from at home?

Sure, fossil fuels are a non-renewable resource, but they're a net gain in energy because the energy required to build the hydrocarbons has already been paid, and we can reap the benefits of that. There are other sources of energy that can be tapped such as methane hydrates trapped in the arctic permafrost. There is thousands of times more energy potential stored in methane hydrates in the canadian arctic alone than all the petrolium under the earth. That's right, all the oil ever dug up out of the earth pales by comparaison to some of the other non-renewable energy resources on the planet. The only reason they haven't been tapped yet is financial.

But is this a new energy revolution that's going to bring about a bohemian existance for us all? Free energy from tapwater? Nope. It can't happen. You can't get more out than you put in (or than has already been put in). Want some truly free energy? Go tanning.
 
How about a steam car that generates steam in the expansion chamber using microwave?

Possible but dumb when electric motors are better.
 
The super insulator you might be interested in is aerogel , extremely light weight, extremely high insulation values !!.....The three laws of thermodynamics are ; You can't win , You can't break even , and You can't get out of the game !!
 
Temper said:
Yes there are also laws saying you only get out what you put in. YOU being the key word here. It would be silly to say that scientists put all the energy into the bombs they dropped on Japan, they didnt, they just found a way to release it.
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Yes they found a way to have uncontolled reaction. :eek: The energy was allready there. They just found a way to break the bonds at the atomic level. Like starting a fire. A forest fire is started with a match but all the energy of the fire isn't in the match.

This guy is producing a hydrogen gas correct? It looks as though he is using electolysis. If he isn't getting out more gas than could make electricity..its useless. The needed electricity has to come from somewhere? Burning fossil fuels, atomic energy, hydroelectric.

http://www.bellona.no/en/energy/hydrogen/report_6-2002/22869.html


I'm not saying it can't be done, just if it is being down it would be WORLWIDE NEWS.

Personally I think biologic production will probably be the best and cheapest way, but the one that gives me the heebie jeebies..Imagine a bacteria that produces hydrogen gas that gets out and fills the atmosphere with hydrogen?

Paul


Paul
 
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