Is this watch in fashion today?

MiklePorter

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Hi there,

As I am the CEO of a rather big company I have to look impeccably business-like and at the same time clean and professional. So I have to pay attention to my watch as well.

(( Please look for your impeccable business elsewhere. ))


I don't see big difference between highly expensive original watches and their less expensive replicas, so why to pay more?
 
Hi there,

As I am a clown for a rather big company I have to look impeccably clown-like and at the same time clean and professional. So I have to pay attention to my clown-shoes as well.




I don't see big difference between highly expensive original clown-shoes and their less expensive replicas, so why to pay more?
 
I don't see big difference between highly expensive original watches and their less expensive replicas, so why to pay more?

Unfortunately, your would-be Zenith Chronomaster gives year and month. A real Chronomaster gives month, day, and date. Your Chronomaster has small seconds at six. A real one has small seconds at nine. And while the back may have "necessary markings and engravings", the movement revealed by the doubtlessly-plastic window is obviously not El Primero. Wear that watch in front of a real Zenith owner and you will be taged as a fake, a fraud, and a confidence artist which really doesn't go with the CEO image you're trying to portray.
 
good one gollnick. i needed a good laugh this morning and your reply got me rolling.:thumbup::D
 
Sometimes, we men (let's face it, bf.c is a predominately-male audience) think of this as a "woman's issue," fake Gucci handbags, that sort of thing. We sometimes also think about it as "stickin' it to the man" when we see (or even buy or download) pirated copies of music CDs or video DVDs. But, the whole issue of counterfeit goods touches upon the knife industry in a very real way. Noted custom knife maker and bf.c member Todd Beggs was not amused to find made-in-China copies of one if his distinctive folding knives for sale for $10 each at the recent Oregon Knife Collector's Show. You can read about it in THIS THREAD. And there are many other examples of famous designers who've had their knife designs ripped off.

Does it hurt these people? ABSOLUTELY! Noted custom knife maker and bf.c member Terry Guinn designed an absolutely novel balisong-style knife, his Ring Fighter Balisong. He was very close to closing a deal with a major knife manufacturer to license the design. This was the exact same deal with the exact same manufacturer that has propelled other big-name knife makers to huge professional and also financial success. But, when cheap copies started flooding out of China for a few bucks each, the deal fell through. Terry Guinn should have been the one to benefit financially and professionally from his innovative design. Instead, some sweatshop master in China is.

Our recently-banned CEO here says, "I don't see big difference between highly expensive original watches and their less expensive replicas..." Well, we could talk about the professional and financial damage they do to folks like Terry Guinn and Todd Beggs, but let's look beyond that for now. We could talk about the prison labor and sweatshops in which these products are often made, but let's look beyond that for now. We could talk about how these products are often traded for profit by organized crime and terroist groups including Al Qaeda, but let's look beyond that for now. We could talk about the quality of these goods and about the environmental damage that's done by manufacturing cheap goods in back-room factories, but let's look beyond that for now.

But, what's beyond all of that? What's beyond doing real damage to real, creative people, beyond prison and sweatshop labor, beyond financing organized crime and terrorism, and beyond environmental damage? I'll tell you what is beyond all of that: the damage these things do to your own character, your own morality. You are investing your own self-worth in a $200 fake Rolex. If that's what you think you're worth, then you are to be above all pitied. You know that patronizing these products is immoral, that it is stealing. Everyone knows that. You know that you're stealing from the designers and manufacturers of the originals just as surely as the man who pick-pockets your wallet is stealing from you. You've made yourself a petty thief. You know that these products come from sweatshops and prison labor, but you're willing to exploit those people so that you can have a fake bobble on your wrist. How immoral is that? The person who is most damaged by these products is YOU, the person who compromises his own morality to wear one.
 
I belong to a watch forum and I can't tell you how many fakes are out there, not just Rolex. And to add to Gollnick's points, all of them very good points, are the people who put out these fakes. These are people who are dishonest, lazy, and just too stupid to come up with an original idea on their own who ride on the back of those who did all the hard work :mad::thumbdn::mad::thumbdn:. It's one of those things that just burns my a$$ :grumpy::grumpy:.
 
What I can't understand is the mentality that says buy a cheap watch because it looks almost like an expensive watch. It's not even going to be a good watch. If I'm not going to wear an expensive watch, at least let me get a Casio or Seiko that will give me good service for the money I do spend on it.
 
Sometimes, we men (let's face it, bf.c is a predominately-male audience) think of this as a "woman's issue," fake Gucci handbags, that sort of thing. We sometimes also think about it as "stickin' it to the man" when we see (or even buy or download) pirated copies of music CDs or video DVDs. But, the whole issue of counterfeit goods touches upon the knife industry in a very real way. Noted custom knife maker and bf.c member Todd Beggs was not amused to find made-in-China copies of one if his distinctive folding knives for sale for $10 each at the recent Oregon Knife Collector's Show. You can read about it in THIS THREAD. And there are many other examples of famous designers who've had their knife designs ripped off.

Does it hurt these people? ABSOLUTELY! Noted custom knife maker and bf.c member Terry Guinn designed an absolutely novel balisong-style knife, his Ring Fighter Balisong. He was very close to closing a deal with a major knife manufacturer to license the design. This was the exact same deal with the exact same manufacturer that has propelled other big-name knife makers to huge professional and also financial success. But, when cheap copies started flooding out of China for a few bucks each, the deal fell through. Terry Guinn should have been the one to benefit financially and professionally from his innovative design. Instead, some sweatshop master in China is.

Our recently-banned CEO here says, "I don't see big difference between highly expensive original watches and their less expensive replicas..." Well, we could talk about the professional and financial damage they do to folks like Terry Guinn and Todd Beggs, but let's look beyond that for now. We could talk about the prison labor and sweatshops in which these products are often made, but let's look beyond that for now. We could talk about how these products are often traded for profit by organized crime and terroist groups including Al Qaeda, but let's look beyond that for now. We could talk about the quality of these goods and about the environmental damage that's done by manufacturing cheap goods in back-room factories, but let's look beyond that for now.

But, what's beyond all of that? What's beyond doing real damage to real, creative people, beyond prison and sweatshop labor, beyond financing organized crime and terrorism, and beyond environmental damage? I'll tell you what is beyond all of that: the damage these things do to your own character, your own morality. You are investing your own self-worth in a $200 fake Rolex. If that's what you think you're worth, then you are to be above all pitied. You know that patronizing these products is immoral, that it is stealing. Everyone knows that. You know that you're stealing from the designers and manufacturers of the originals just as surely as the man who pick-pockets your wallet is stealing from you. You've made yourself a petty thief. You know that these products come from sweatshops and prison labor, but you're willing to exploit those people so that you can have a fake bobble on your wrist. How immoral is that? The person who is most damaged by these products is YOU, the person who compromises his own morality to wear one.

bravo, bravo.
 
What I can't understand is the mentality that says buy a cheap watch because it looks almost like an expensive watch. It's not even going to be a good watch. If I'm not going to wear an expensive watch, at least let me get a Casio or Seiko that will give me good service for the money I do spend on it.
That would put him in the "Watch Poser" catagory. And it just occured to me, won't he look REALLY stupid when someone busts him out on his fake watch :jerkit:.
 
This is turning into a discussion of how stoopid it is to wear a fake watch, so let's move to Gadgets & Gear. :)

Let’s see if we can find the right forum …
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That would put him in the "Watch Poser" catagory. And it just occured to me, won't he look REALLY stupid when someone busts him out on his fake watch :jerkit:.

Yeah, but it's the ones who give a fake watch to a secretary that they're having an affair with that are really in trouble when they get outed by someone else at the office. There are numerous stories on the watch forums.... Think about it -- you might not know watches but you know knives.... What if a secretary where you work started running around the office showing off the Sebenza that the vice-president she's been making out with gave her? And you see at first glance it's a Chinese junker copy? Wouldn't you tell her? :D
 
Yeah, but it's the ones who give a fake watch to a secretary that they're having an affair with that are really in trouble when they get outed by someone else at the office. There are numerous stories on the watch forums.... Think about it -- you might not know watches but you know knives.... What if a secretary where you work started running around the office showing off the Sebenza that the vice-president she's been making out with gave her? And you see at first glance it's a Chinese junker copy? Wouldn't you tell her? :D

I had a friend whose father was a successful businessman, and had plenty of money. He got his wife a huge diamond ring that she enjoyed flaunting about. In all fairness, he was upfront in telling people he just wanted to marry a bimbo, but nonetheless, nothing will replace the day that my mother suggested to his wife that she get the ring insured, which is common sense for such a big ring (I forget the exact size given that I was 10 at the time, but we're probably looking at about $10,000 at least). So, she goes to the jeweler and... well... it was big, was sparkly, but given that it was CUBIC ZIRCONIA, it was more like a couple hundred. Never seen such righteous fury. This happened several years after they were married- the friend I grew up with was about ten- so don't say he just was waiting to get a REAL ring :foot:.
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Fake crap is ~never~ in fashion.

Exactly.

I'm much more impressed with the man who wears a $250 Seiko -- and you can get a very nice watch from Seiko for $250 -- than the man who wears a $250 Faulex. The Seiko says, "I appreciate quality and value." The Faulex says, "I'm shallow and vain, a liar, and immoral/unethical."




Early in the movie Golden Eye, James Bond in his DB5 engages in a bit of an impromptu road race with a lady driving a red Ferrari. Later, as fate -- and the Bond Script Forumula -- would have it, Bond meets this same lady in the casino. He asks about the car. She explains that it belongs to a friend. Bond responds, "the French registration plates for this year’s models start with the letter L... even the counterfeit ones." The implication being that the car is illegitimately-owned.

The devil is, as the old adage goes, in the details.





The fake Zenith really amuses me. Every now and then, someone will say to me, "That's a nice watch you have on."

"Oh, thank you."

"It's a... ah... Rolex, right?"

"Ah? No!"

"Oh... ah... Cartier, then, right? Such style."

"No."

"It is a bit sporty for Cartier, isn't it. Tag Heuer, then?"

"No. It's a Zenith."

"Zenith? Wow!?! When did they start making watches? Well, I guess if you can make television sets, you can make watches too."

"What was it we were supposed to be talking about? Oh, yes... consolidating these mutual accounts. Let's get back to that, shall we?"



Every once in a blue moon, someone will say, "Hey! That's a Zenith Chronomaster T with the El Primero Caliber 411 movement!"

"Why, yes, it is. How did you know that?"

"Oh, I've got my Port Royal right here... see."

There are two kinds of people in this world: Those who have never heard of Zenith Watch Manufacture of Le Locle, Switzerland and are not going to be the slightest bit impressed by that name, and those who are passionate about Zenith watches and will spot that terrible fake from across the room. As a result, wearing this fake has no potential upside whatsoever and a huge potential downside.
 
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