Is this what I think it is?

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G.O.G.

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So a buddy at work had a knife that his son gave him. He basically said he wasn't into knives but he knew I like them, so he offered a Kershaw to me for...ummm... let's just say less than the cost of a tank of gas (in a Honda). I told him it was probably worth $60-$120 but I "am no knife expert". He asked his price knowing it was worth alot more and I bought it. I got home and looked it up on the internet and found a website that has some info. I think I got a Kershaw scrimshaw by Walter Alexander worth around $500 for less than the cost of a tank of gas in a Honda by complete accident. Mine has a black lab holding a duck and is numbererd 105/250 from 1983. On the back it has A&FCo. On the blade it has Kershaw Oregon USA on one side and 'by kai Japan' 2120 on the other. The photos don't do it justice (camera phone), but it lookes mint (with no box). The blade doesn't appear to have ever cut anything. The brass bolster needs polishing. The handle is smooth white bone and signed. Is this what I think it is?

My pics:
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Here are my sources for info I've found so far. (If you have more I'd love to see them):
http://cutlerscove.com/jack-knives/kershaw-eagle1986.htm

http://eelement.appolis.com/BUYKNIVES/eprodlist.asp?P=6043&S=93&PubID=4418
KERSHAW LAB SCRIM FOLDER
Estimated Value: $500.00
lab scrim by Walter Alexander 1998.....

Is the above mine??
Is it worth anything near what I think it is?
.....I'm starting to feel a little guilty.....
 
Hello GOG,

First off, Welcome to the forum!.

From what I can make out from the pictures you have provided here, the knife does look legit.. However, the photographs are pretty crappy at best. Also the condition you describe seems to be somewhat over stated. Even with the less than stellar photo's I can tell that this knife seems to have been carried to some extent.. Perhaps you can take some better quality pics to help us assist you here in rating this knife more accurately.
 
It is the real deal, mint condition it is worth between $125 to $175 , depending on how bad someone wants it. The box and original paper work would be needed to get to the higher end. Alexander did many different pieces for kershaw on the model #2120 and many other bone handled knives. Yours was done for Abercrombie and Fitch Co. and doesn't really increase the value, I personally prefer them without the AF&C logo on them. The bone handles are Water Buffalo from Thailand. The 2105, 2110, and the 2120 have been around since the early to mid 80's but Scrimshaw work wasn't comissioned from Alexander until around 1990. Prior to that Gary Harbour did a fair amount of work for Kershaw.
 
I COULD BE WRONG, but the steel bits look great, whereas the brass looks crappy, but it can easily be polished up. Maybe it was unused. I'm sure my fellow knife knuts know how quickly brass can tarnish and scratch. If the scales are in good shape, it really could be worth something. Good Luck.
 
kershawguy said:
It is the real deal, mint condition it is worth between $125 to $175 , depending on how bad someone wants it. The box and original paper work would be needed to get to the higher end.
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Did they not sell new for somewhere around $450? If so, I understand that without paperwork and such and not mint it would be worth less, but in mint with paperwork would it not be worth closer to the new price bracket?

kershawguy said:
The 2105, 2110, and the 2120 have been around since the early to mid 80's but Scrimshaw work wasn't comissioned from Alexander until around 1990. Prior to that Gary Harbour did a fair amount of work for Kershaw.
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Mine says Walter Alexander 105/250 1983. Does this mean it is a fake or that the artwork was created in 1983, just not put into the knife until later?
 
kershawguy said:
It is the real deal, mint condition it is worth between $125 to $175 , depending on how bad someone wants it. The box and original paper work would be needed to get to the higher end.
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Did they not sell new for somewhere around $450? If so, I understand that without paperwork and such and not mint it would be worth less, but in mint with paperwork would it not be worth closer to the new price bracket?

kershawguy said:
The 2105, 2110, and the 2120 have been around since the early to mid 80's but Scrimshaw work wasn't comissioned from Alexander until around 1990. Prior to that Gary Harbour did a fair amount of work for Kershaw.
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Mine says Walter Alexander 105/250 1983. Does this mean it is a fake or that the artwork was created in 1983, just not put into the knife until later?
 
Here are some slightly better pics of the knife and writing. (I'm not a photographer). Funny thing though...what appear to be scratches on the blade in the pics are actually fingerprints (they wiped off after the pics but my batteries died in the camera before I could retake them).
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It is real for sure, the only conclusion I can make about the date is that Abercrombie and Fitch either comissioned the work or Kershaw did some for them , not sure which it was , maybe Thomas can find out. It is real though I have seen that knife before. Also regardless of suggested retail when new, The price range I mentioned is based on what I have seen sold and those I have purchased over the years. I recently bought one similar and paid the most I have ever paid for one , it had box and papers and I gave $165 for it.

Dave
 
kershawguy said:
It is real for sure, the only conclusion I can make about the date is that Abercrombie and Fitch either comissioned the work or Kershaw did some for them , not sure which it was , maybe Thomas can find out. It is real though I have seen that knife before. Also regardless of suggested retail when new, The price range I mentioned is based on what I have seen sold and those I have purchased over the years. I recently bought one similar and paid the most I have ever paid for one , it had box and papers and I gave $165 for it.

Dave
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Thanks for the replies. I'm not selling mine, and you may not be in the market; but if you were, what would you give for one in my condition with no box or papers...and who is Thomas? (sorry I'm new here)
 
G.O.G. said:
Thanks for the replies. I'm not selling mine, and you may not be in the market; but if you were, what would you give for one in my condition with no box or papers...and who is Thomas? (sorry I'm new here)
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He is just some weirdo that posts here sometimes LOL, He is the big Cheese here on Kershaws forum and quite a nice guy. He is national sales manager for Kershaw. If I were in the market for that knife and it was mint condition ( which I can't tell from photos) I would pay $125. You would just need the right buyer (duck hunter, sportsman, etc.) that wanted it and it could go a little higher. One tip , on all these bone handled knives , if the bone is glossy and very smooth , it is in very good condition. If it is a bit dull and slightly rough in texture it has pocket wear and reduces the value. Yours appears to have some dulling of the ink and the bone appears dull. These conditions could just be the photos, only you can tell.

Dave
 
kershawguy said:
If it is a bit dull and slightly rough in texture it has pocket wear and reduces the value. Yours appears to have some dulling of the ink and the bone appears dull. These conditions could just be the photos, only you can tell.
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It does have some pocket carry wear causing the aformentioned wear. The bone still feels smooth to the touch though so no 'pitting' has occurred (at least as far as my sense of touch can tell). It just looks a little pocket worn and the brass bolster needs to be polished. Before I saw pics of some in better condition I thought this was 'antiquing' done on purpose for the look. The blade, however, looks like it has never cut anything. So I am assuming its value to be $100 or so? Less?
 
I guess I can't pm as a simple registered user. I was trying to ask the question in post #8 of this thread to Thomas as suggested. Are you there Thomas? Anyone willing to PM Thomas for me?
 
kershawguy said:
He is just some weirdo that posts here sometimes LOL, He is the big Cheese here on Kershaws forum and quite a nice guy. He is national sales manager for Kershaw. If I were in the market for that knife and it was mint condition ( which I can't tell from photos) I would pay $125. You would just need the right buyer (duck hunter, sportsman, etc.) that wanted it and it could go a little higher. One tip , on all these bone handled knives , if the bone is glossy and very smooth , it is in very good condition. If it is a bit dull and slightly rough in texture it has pocket wear and reduces the value. Yours appears to have some dulling of the ink and the bone appears dull. These conditions could just be the photos, only you can tell.

Dave
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I will try and post some pictures and maybe someone can help me out with the value of this knife. I am new to this fourm and not sure yet how to post a picture. I just started collecting folders, I was a fixed blade guy until recently. I will post this text and look to see how to post some pictures, thank you in advance for any information anyone can give me on this knife.
 
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