Issues with my Gen 5 Skinner

Badhammer

Badhammer

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Received my Gen 5 Skinner yesterday. Really like the knife though I admit it's a little smaller than I envisioned. Great feel to the handle, nice blade profile and looks wise it's a beauty!

However, the blade is scratched.

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And it appears the blade is cutting through the sheath.

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I'd planned on using this one from time to time and wasn't initially put off by the scratches but after thinking about it overnight and finding the cut in the sheath I'm going to be contacting GPK and see about returning it.

Anyone else have the sheath issue? From what I can tell there is no liner in the sheath and when inserting the blade you can see the cut widen ever so slightly.

Just checked their website and GPK states defects should be handled by the manufacturer so I guess I need to go back to Buck on this?


Looking at the interior of the sheath if appears it does have a liner of some type. In this photo you can see that the blade has cut through that liner and and sheath.

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I would think that the purpose of the liner would be to prevent just this type of situation. Checked Bucks site and they only show the nylon sheath for the Gen 5, not the leather.
 
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I would send it back,we all know they will fix it,but what makes me upset is why doe sa new knife need fixing/Any old 110 2 dot style i've ever beren lucky enough to get my hands on has been perfect,zero issues.I've handled over 25 buck 2110's at 2 different walmarts,they still come in boxes there,i would have bought 2 out of 25 whats up????
 
This is just a guess, but I think that the blade got pushed in behind the liner at some point. That may have caused the liner to collapse a bit so that when you insert the knife now, the easiest route fior the knife to take is behind the liner. I just fooled around with one of mine for awhile and the fit is so tight, I doubt if I could tell if the blade was not going into the liner.

On second thought now. I looked into my sheath with a flashlight and I can see where the blade has cut completely through the liner in exactly the same area as the cut in your sheath! Mine just hasn't cut through the leather yet. I looked inside a second sheath and the area inside the liner is much more open and not as squeezed together as my other one.

I'm betting that Buck has the leather sheaths, they just aren't on the website. I think I'd send it back to them, sheath and all.
 
The cordura ones that i have ,the liner is molded and is really durable from what i;ve seen.
 
IF you are going to collect it then dont leave it in the sheath IF you dont want it sratched... When I get a BuckMaster refurbished I never put it back in the that sheath....I use to but I saw Danny who does the refurb flinch when I did that ONCE... Joe Houser and Danny BOTH explained why I shouldnt..
 
Called Buck Warranty Service and left a message to call me. We'll see how they want to handle it.
 
I've seen this on another thread and a Buck rep(dont remember which one) was certain that it didnt leave the factory thay way, but of course ensured they would take care of it. Cant beat Buck:thumbup:
 
Just got a call back from Michelle @ Buck. First off allow me to say that she was wonderful to speak with. The best customer service experience I've had in my 50+ years on this earth.

I explained the issues that I felt I had with both the scratches on the blade and the sheath. Michelle said "Those sound like warranty issues, send'er in".

Was planning on sending in my 25+ year old Model 303 to get some blade play taken care of and a spa treatment at some point so I would have been paying shipping to Buck anyway.

What I'd like Buck to do with regards to the Gen 5 is simply buff out the scratches on the blade if possible which I think it is, and replace the sheath (after making sure it's not doing the same thing as this one).

Will ship both knives out on Monday, gotta take my two hoodlums to the vet tomorrow or I'd get them out sooner. Will let you all know how things turn out.
 
Those scratches aren't from the sheath, but probably from mishandling before it was sold. My guess would be the same with the sheath. That's great that Buck is taking care of it, but its ashame it wasn't taken better care of prior to being sold.
 
st8yd said:
Those scratches aren't from the sheath, but probably from mishandling before it was sold. My guess would be the same with the sheath. That's great that Buck is taking care of it, but its ashame it wasn't taken better care of prior to being sold.
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Your correct, the marks can't be from the sheath, the run across the blade not with it and the sheath has no side to side play.

How do you figure it's mishandling? There is no way the knife will fit into the sheath without piercing the liner and the sheath itself, it's not built right. How is that a result of "mishandling"?

The blade could have been scratched by the dealer that sold it but how could you say with certainty that's what/where it happened? At the least they would have had to unbox and unsheath blade in order to scratch it. Do most dealer even inspect every knife they get let alone damage them in the process? I guess if they had it in a display case it might but since they still have this model in stock that would seem unlikely.

I've got a spot on the blade of my Kalinga Pro folder that didn't get buffed/polished from the factory. Things do get missed that shouldn't.
 
I tried to take pictures of the insides of two sheaths with no luck today. If you will take a close look, you'll see four layers of leather on the stiched side. On one of my sheaths, the liner appears to be trapped between the outer layers front and back and the inner layers. That liner works find and there's no issue with cutting it.

On the other sheath however, the liner is not between the layers, but is pinched together at the blade edge side and is a super tight fit. That's the one that shows the cut in mine. It hasn't gotten to the leather yet, but I've no doubt that it would in time.

Can you understand from my description what I'm talking about?
 
Plumberdv said:
I tried to take pictures of the insides of two sheaths with no luck today. If you will take a close look, you'll see four layers of leather on the stiched side. On one of my sheaths, the liner appears to be trapped between the outer layers front and back and the inner layers. That liner works find and there's no issue with cutting it.

On the other sheath however, the liner is not between the layers, but is pinched together at the blade edge side and is a super tight fit. That's the one that shows the cut in mine. It hasn't gotten to the leather yet, but I've no doubt that it would in time.

Can you understand from my description what I'm talking about?
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Sounds pretty much identical to my sheath. Also the sheath has a twist/curve to it. Pretty hard for a short rigid blade like this to curve to match the sheath. It can only go straight in and somethings got to give way which in this case it's the sheath.

I've inserted the knife into the sheath maybe 20 times now and there is now liner protruding through the slit on the rear of the sheath. Pieces of the liner are coming off on the blade so it's continuing to worsen as the knife is inserted and withdrawn.

If anyone has a sheath like this you might want to look it over and check to see if it's having any issues.
 
Badhammer said:
Sounds pretty much identical to my sheath. Also the sheath has a twist/curve to it. Pretty hard for a short rigid blade like this to curve to match the sheath. It can only go straight in and somethings got to give way which in this case it's the sheath. I've inserted the knife into the sheath maybe 20 times now and there is now liner protruding through the slit on the rear of the sheath. Pieces of the liner are coming off on the blade so it's continuing to worsen as the knife is inserted and withdrawn.

If anyone has a sheath like this you might want to look it over and check to see if it's having any issues.
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That sounds exactly like the one I have.
 
Badhammer said:
How do you figure it's mishandling? There is no way the knife will fit into the sheath without piercing the liner and the sheath itself, it's not built right. How is that a result of "mishandling"?

The blade could have been scratched by the dealer that sold it but how could you say with certainty that's what/where it happened? At the least they would have had to unbox and unsheath blade in order to scratch it.
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There's no tell'n how it was fondled prior to making it to you. I would think that at the factory the knife was completed and stuck in the sheath, one time, then in the box. Never having much oppertunity to get damaged, but that's merely my guess.
 
I'm glad buck is happy to take care of it for ya!I just bought 2 more gen 5 with charcoal and 420.LOL
 
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