Tonite I just had a starter go out on a drag conveyor. 2 t8s hold the bracket to the starter on. My only torx set is in my kobalt driver kit. Wouldn't you know it. I had the kit but my handle was in my shop @ home. Welp for the 1st time I used the handle on my 850 for a handle for the bit. It worked fairly well. It was alittle weird because I was working in top corner in an electric box but very manageable. Would have been less awkward if using it out in the open. Just thought I would share.