It's a Sebenza thing and I don't understand

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Knife11

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Everytime you turn around it's Sebenza this Sebenza that. What is the Deal!?!? It's a nice size and it has good materials used in making it but beyond that I think it's kind of plan unless you get the artzy fartzy versions. The blade isn't in some great new shape or even in a great old shape (recurve or tanto). And personally I don't really like frame locks they don't move into the blade far enough for me and I don't like the idea of the handel I'm tring to hold on to moving on me. And by the way does anybody else find it funny that when your compairing the Sebenza to other knives it always to knives that cost at least 100 dollars less. It should be better then, but I don't like it.
Is there anyone else out there like me! or are you all going to wave your Sebenzas in the air and chant "Crucify him"!! I'm really not meaning trash the Sebenza although I guess that's what I did. I just want to know "What's all the hubbub bub" :)

Knife

P.S. I have had one (in case you were wondering)
 
Some things are just right and you know when you see them, but you cannot explain... it's like a 911. Far too expensive, but the design is just perfect. Probably the basic design of the Sebenza will still be here in 10 or 20 years... with maybe some small enhancements. I wonder how many designs of knives "that cost at least 100 dollars less" will last...
 
Eeeeeek!

It's "THE THING THAT WOULDN'T LEAVE !!!!!"

(does anyone remember the old SNL skit? Belushi was "the thing", as I recall.)

Actually, the Sebenza is an awful knife and we're all members of a brainwashed secret cult. Of course now that you know that, you will have to die...


:p
 
Originally posted by Knife11

Is there anyone else out there like me!
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I am!

What is Sebenza? Two pieces of rectangle titanium and between them the blade.

Put on it a price tag with sufficient big price - and "oh, boy, what a KNIFE!" A truly "must have" for everyone! :p

If somebody is having a good laugh, it must be Reeve!
 
What the hubub is about is quality. These knives are made with tolerances and quality control simply not found on other production knives and that quality is expensive because it involves a lot of hand work. I won't get into a long dissertation but it means things like a frame lock that never wears out, a pivot that never loosens from wear, fit and finish that appeal to a connoisseur, that sort of thing. Doesn't mean it cuts any better. Doesn't mean you should like it or buy it. But at least you should understand the reason for the price tag. Take care.
 
I had one too. I think the only thing worth more than any other high end production is the name. Folks all get all fired up about "close tolerance" and stuff. AThe computer CNC machine is the same no matter who turns it on. Some employee of Reeve or Benchmade. Quality control may be better, but that is not enough for the extra $200+. I got miy small decorated. Posted how cool I was a couple times and was done with it. Try the exchange forum. They are always popping up there. People think they are magic and they are only an illusion.
 
Originally posted by Knife Outlet
What the hubub is about is quality. These knives are made with tolerances and quality control simply not found on other production knives and that quality is expensive because it involves a lot of hand work. I won't get into a long dissertation but it means things like a frame lock that never wears out, a pivot that never loosens from wear, fit and finish that appeal to a connoisseur, that sort of thing. Doesn't mean it cuts any better. Doesn't mean you should like it or buy it. But at least you should understand the reason for the price tag. Take care.
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...and if you can't see the point coming from a guy who handles just about every single production knife out there, well then :rolleyes:

Magician -

IIRC, the CNC machine cuts out the handle slabs, and maybe the basic outline of the blade. But the blade itself is hand-finished to fit exactly to the handles - which is why you cannot simply swap blades from one Sebenza to another.

Matthew
 
I bet on nutforums.com there are peanut lovers posting crap like "Cashews...I just don't get it".
Surely nobody likes the way they taste enough to pay twice as much as they would for peanuts. Those people that buy cashews probably don't really eat them either, since they're just for show.
 
For me it is similar to the question of what kind of car you own. I choose not to own a Mercedes, although I respect its quality. My needs are met by a less expensive brand and I feel like I get better value for my money from that decision.

At the same time, there are plenty of people who choose the Mercedes because having that level of quality, prestige and pride of ownership is worth more to them than the money it takes to buy it.

Substitute "Sebenza" or "Rolex" or "Mont Blanc" or "Dom Perignon" for "Mercedes" and it's the same thing. People have different needs and values, so there are different brands and models to choose from. If there were only one right choice, this would be a very small forum.
 
Originally posted by Knife11
I just want to know "What's all the hubbub bub" :)
P.S. I have had one (in case you were wondering)
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Knife11,

It's just a tool! :) just like everything else some people
hate it, Some don't care, Some like them, and Some love them.
If it doesn't do anything for you then I hope you find a knife
that does! :) If you had yours for atlest a month, and cleaned it,
then I bet you know what all the "hubbub bub" is about you
probably just don't care.

One question what are you carrying now? (Just wondered) :)
 
I think it's funny that the first response to mock this post was from a man who makes a knife that's probably a match for any in the world ...

I got a Sebenza for free. I didn't have to justify what I paid for it. I didn't pay for it. I was surprised by the incredible fit and finish, and I was a little intimidated, knowing what it did sell for. Then I started using it.

I've got three Sebenzas now and an Umfaan.

Like they say, YMMV.
 
Hehehehe….. So it’s time for the monthly Sebenza thread, eh? Okay. I’ll play.

I’ll admit that the plain Sebenza is pretty ugly. It’s really meant as a using knife though. It isn’t built to look pretty. That’s what CRKTs are for. The Sebenza is just meant to perform perfectly for its entire life (which would probably be longer than your own). It’s built like a tank, and cuts VERY efficiently. There is more to the Sebenza than can be discerned just by picking one up and flicking it a few times. It has to be used hard to get a full appreciation for it.

Yes, you can get 90% of a Sebenza’s goodness for $125.00. Than again, you can 90% of a BM 710’s goodness for $50.00. And you can 90% of a CRKT KFF’s performance for $3.50. That’s the law of diminishing returns. If you want the most bang for the buck, the Pakistan POS knife is a much better value than a Sebenza. But if you want the most reliable lock in your production folder, and with the most efficient cutting blade in a tactical, you better open up your wallet a bit wider, ‘cause the Seb isn’t cheap.

As for your dislike of frame locks, that’s a matter of personal preference, I guess. It is true that frame locks are some of the most reliable and strongest folder locks in existence. Whether they float your boat or not is another issue. I wouldn’t worry about the lock moving on you while you’re holding the knife though. Your hand will hold it in place. That’s the whole idea behind the mechanism. It’s much better than a liner lock moving while you’re holding a knife. You won’t have your hand to keep it from doing so, which translates to a missing finger or something.

Think of it this way. The Seb is pretty much the definitive benchmark in pure strength and performance for a folder. That doesn’t mean that everybody will like it. It just means that it will perform better than most any production folder out there.

For the record, I was once also very skeptical of the Sebenza. I was able to get a deal on one, so I tried it out. I figured that I could just resell it and recoup most or all of my money, if the Seb didn’t live up to my expectations. I now carry a large plain Sebenza. The knife has never failed me in any way. It cuts better than most tactical folders. It isn’t pretty, but I didn’t buy it to show off. I bought it to cut stuff.
 
It's the "ity's"

Simplicity
Reliability
Durability
Accessibility
Ability

That, and of course "Flick-ability"

:p
 
I have a small Sebenza, which I carry from time to time, but I never really "fell in love" with it. I carry other knives more frequently, but once in a while the Sebby is the ticket.

I always find these threads kind of funny. I own a high performance vehicle that I mod as another "hobby", and $300 is nothing to spend on one part, and it certainly won't last a lifetime.

Prices go up exponentially relative to an incremental gain in quality in most any product line.
 
I think this post has been great fun. Another point is doesn't a frame lock necessitate a metal Handle? I perfer something I can grip better.
great responce bussbait and thank you to the rest of you who had the nuts to stand and say you don't like it either.
Maybe I'll buy one used some day.
I currently carry a 710HS but I'm try to deside between a 722 or a SOG vision but that's it a differnt thread. Post an opinion there too if you'd like I'd appreciate it.
Knife
 
Sometimes, "Less is more" as quoted from Mies Van Der Rohe

If you don't know who he is, look it up.
 
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