It's time for a framelock Delica

hank_rearden

hank_rearden

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the stainless handles on the delica 3 proved excellent and durable. improvements with the d4 handle include reduced weight and better ergonomics. but the lock remained the same. i think the SS handle is adaptible to integral lock. it doesn't have to be titanium, right? you have a lot of SS framelocks that give reliable strength without adding too much weight.

one of my main complaints with framelocks is the poor ergos on the lock side of ther handle. only the tips of the fingers have anything good to grip at the blank side. but with a spydey, this problem is ameliorated by having a thumb ramp, and a choke-up choil.

the only possible problem with the delica is a rather thin width of the handle between the pivot pin and the first screw. this is where the bearing end of the framelock will be.

if offered, i would prefer the blank side of the handle to retain an FRN scale (or even g-10. however, a fully SS handle like the D3 looks attractive. a VG-10 blade will give you a winner in the EDC < $60 category whereas a ZDP blade will give you real value.

whadyathink?
 
I think the Delica 3 was FRN. You seem to be talking about the Delica II (SS handle). Apart from that, I've never met a framelock I liked. That's why I don't have a Sebenza. And lastly, in my opinion, it wouldn't be Delica anymore, it would be a whole different knife.
 
yablanowitz said:
And lastly, in my opinion, it wouldn't be Delica anymore, it would be a whole different knife.
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I agree that it would be another knife entirely but I would like it. I would prefer a compression lock though and that would definitely be a completely different knife.
 
Delica's and Endura's are very affordable rock solid knives. I see no need to change anything.
 
hank_rearden said:
oh. thanks for the correction. but do you think it's feasible?
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Define "feasible". It is certainly possible, but the only thing I can see it doing is competing with the Sage 2, thereby reducing the contribution to Alzheimer's research provided by the proceeds from that model (and the rest of the Sage project). I don't see that as a good thing. YMMV.
 
Why all the hate for the mid/backlock? I've never understood that. Some of my favorite Spydies have had backlocks, and I've never had any issues with them. Also, they're ambidextrous, which is great for those of us who are good with our left hands.

Also, the Delica doesn't have a choke up choil, so you're basically talking about making a new line kind of like the Delica but with a choil and frame lock. It'd be a nice knife, no doubt, but it seems there are already a number of options like this in the Spyderco line.
 
MJF said:
Why all the hate for the mid/backlock? I've never understood that. Some of my favorite Spydies have had backlocks, and I've never had any issues with them. Also, they're ambidextrous, which is great for those of us who are good with our left hands.

Also, the Delica doesn't have a choke up choil, so you're basically talking about making a new line kind of like the Delica but with a choil and frame lock. It'd be a nice knife, no doubt, but it seems there are already a number of options like this in the Spyderco line.
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I don't hate backlocks at all, but I think many people prefer other locking systems because backlocks are much harder to unlock with one hand. Also they tend to be heavier than frame/liner locks.
 
I think I would purchase a delica with a frame lock. A lot of what is appealing with the blades on the market has to do with the locking mechanism. It's a personal preference, and for me something with a frame or liner lock is preferred to something with a backlock.
 
MJF said:
Also, the Delica doesn't have a choke up choil, so you're basically talking about making a new line kind of like the Delica but with a choil and frame lock. It'd be a nice knife, no doubt, but it seems there are already a number of options like this in the Spyderco line.
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edctac said:
I think they do make a frame lock delica, it's just called the sage 2 :)
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That was pretty much my reaction. "Make something like a Delica, only totally different." Delica size, thumb ramp, choil and framelock...how is that not a Sage 2?

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yablanowitz said:
That was pretty much my reaction. "Make something like a Delica, only totally different." Delica size, thumb ramp, choil and framelock...how is that not a Sage 2?
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Whatever else a framelock "Delica" might be, it sure as heck wouldn't be a Delica any more! :rolleyes:
 
They are... two completely different blade shapes. I get where you're coming from, but it's not like he's daydreaming about a bigger Paramilitary 2 (lol u mean a Military?) He's asking for a particular design with a different lock. It's really not a difficult concept to understand.

I like the Sage lineups blade. I just think that personally the Delica's blade is more appealing. It's like how I love the Paramilitary 2, but wish it was a liner lock over compression because it's what I prefer :P
 
I've grown to prefer knives with midlocks and 50/50 choils, so no real interest in the Delica, and definitely no interest in a wrong handed RIL version of one. However, a Stretch with this type "framelock" would be a different matter.

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first, i find nothing bad about backlocks. i find it one of the most reliable and convenient to operate. arguing which is the best/strongest lock is about as useful as choosing which bullet to hit you full in the chest. i'm just thinking that the delica concept would take to the framelock design quite nicely. and no, i don't believe such a knife would be anything like a sage 2. like most collectors, i would like several versions of a model i'm very particular with.

only two guys answered unequivocally (one yes and one no) but again, would you take to a framelock delica? yes or no. :)
 
I would not be interested in a Delica frame lock. However, it would be interesting to see a R2 framelock. I like the ergos a bit more than those on the Delica.
 
Being ambidextrous with a tendency to favor my left hand, I probably wouldn't. I prefer the back/midlock, as it's easy to use with either hand. I also don't get why people have a hard time unlocking it with just one hand. It requires you to reposition your hand, but it's pretty easy.
 
I don't have a frame lock yet. If I were to buy one it would be a military. I prefer mid locks to frame locks as lock back knives were my first locking folders. I have yet to have one fail and I got my first lock back 37 years ago.
 
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