It's time to step up the quality...

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of knife photography in the magazines. This will cost me but I'll say it anyway. The positive impact of good knife images is under-valued, and the negative impact of a poor image is greater than one might think. And what's true for the magazine is also true for maker web-sites.

Let the story unfold. Today I received my Knives Illustrated magazine, the December 2006 issue. Before I could jump in and read the articles I took a look at the editorial page. Quoting the editor, Bruce Voyles, "This issue was pulled together in a dozen different hotel rooms, over dial-up internet connections, high-speed access, on CDs with next-day delivery... etc." Sorry to say this Mr. Voyles but it shows!

I don't blame the makers. They have enough to do to bother to learn the secrets and techniques of quality 'product photography.' However, if you let a spouse or a friend take pictures of your knives in order to save money - beware - you're better off with a pro who will treat you in a business like manner and has a vested interest in getting their own 'best work' out there in front of readers.

I don't blame the authors as they are mainly good at writing, engaging in research and even working on location with their subject to get the story. Some writers are good photographers as well and should be sought out actively by magazine editors and paid well for submitting quality stories that include quality images.

I blame the editors who want articles and think of the pictures as an after thought. Editors set the quality bar for images and text. The December, 2006 issue of Knives Illustrated is a good example. The cover features an interesting new Spyderco magnetic locking knife but the tip of the knife is black - the result of poor lighting.

The advertisement images are generally better because these companies are quicker to employ a good graphics person who can put together an exciting visual presentation. Then come the articles. Mac Overton is promoting early holiday knife gift buying - good concept except there is nothing about the 14 cutlery items pictured that could garner a second glance.

The next story about folding knives at war in Iraq and is generally well done, including a parade of military types and support persons showing their knives which are very hard to see. The next article by Pat Casico is titled "Buck Knives' "New" Old Classics." I count 44 knives pictured, all of which look the same to me. I might've read that article in depth if the pictures had drawn me in.

Now Mike Carter writes warmly about Gil Hibben's 50th year of knife making and the attendant celebration. The first knife shown is the featured knife of the article - and the steel can't possibly be that color. A section of the same knife is redundantly shown later in the article. The five remaining photographs are of Gil Hibben himself, one features him holding the same knife we've already seen twice. This was a missed opportunity in terms of using photography to illustrate some of the significant dramatic creations he has made.

Then, thankfully along comes B.R. Hughes with a well-written, short and concise but pithy story about Burt Foster whom he calls "vastly gifted." The shop and forge pictures of Burt are excellent and total only two. The other five pictures are of some of Burt's knives with very creative backdrops. The images were the best of the rest but still lacked the level of quality commensurate with Burt's skill and reputation.

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The next article was way more than I want to know about Ontario Knife Company but the pictures were a cut above so I spent some time with that article. Then comes a shop visit article about Mike Mooney. This one was well written but some irellevant pictures were included and the knife pictures ranged from good to poor. I was particularly dismayed when a pair of chef's knives my wife owns by Mike were pictured against a funky rubber mat. Here's my own picture illustrating what might have been possible.
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The rest goes on and on in the same mediocre fashion. The photographer talent to do it right is out there but is not valued enough by the magazines to pay for the results. Until that balance shifts, or the internet magazines begin to strip the print magazines of their readership the situation will likely remain the same.

I'm open to being educated, corrected and enlightened if I'm off base. What do others think?
 
Buddy, I agree with you wholeheartedly.

We understand that resources are limited, but I do believe that even limited efforts to improve the quality of photography in these magazines would go a long way towards creating a more appealing visual product. A lot of the readers are drawn as much to the pictures as they are to the articles - if not more so. We often call it "knife porn" because the visual appeal of these works of art is a huge part of what draws us to them.

Just imagine what would happen to the circulation of Playboy if they used amateur photographers with poor equipment and lousy lighting!

On a side note, I'm also often amazed at how many blatant spelling and grammatical errors get by the editors - this is true of all the knife publications. It's very unprofessional.
 
Hello to everyone. This is my first post as a new member.

I've been lurking around for a week or two and hadn't posted anything until I saw this thread. For years I subscribed to Knives Illustrated. To me, it was the bible I'd been searching for. Then suddenly, Bud Lang was gone as editor, and Bruce Voyles took over.

I let my subscription lapse for a variety of reasons, not least of which was the feeling that the periodical was trending in a direction I didn't like. I recently picked up a copy in a local book store and flipped through it... I was terribly disappointed.

What made KI THE knife peridodical was gone. It's not just the pictures. The overall quality of the magazine has degraded. It may be a silly thing to feel upset about, but there it is.
 
One of the reasons that I no longer purchase any of the knife magazines is that I am unhappy with the quality of most of the photography.

It would be interesting to get some perspective from the editors of the magazines as to why they don't take the quality of the images in their publications as seriously as they should. Is it a belief that mediocre is good enough? Is it that it would cost them too much?
 
Guys,

I can tell you having written articles for both Blade and Knives Illustrated the hardest part is getting knives from the makers to be photograhped.

Bruce Voyles and I got together at the Blade Show to have Terrill Hoffman photograph knives prior to the Blade Show opening. Terrill was done by Noon on Friday. I had personally contacted each maker I was going to do an article on to tell them about the time and place to have their knives.

I know you will find this hard to believe, not only was there a maker who showed up over an hour late. There were two other makers who didn't even show up at all!

There are some makers who take excellent photo's, Burt Foster comes to mind. Most makers who do have photographs of their work taken use professional services for photography. Unfortunately, the majority of knife makers do not. They either don't think they need their knives phtotographed, don't want to pay for it or don't have time to get it done prior to shipping the knife.

Consequently, magazines are forced to use what they can get.

WWG
Writer
President
Arbitrage Custom Knives
 
magazines are forced to use what they can get.

Even here they could stand do improve dramatically.

Have them call up Coop or Terrill Hoffman or even Buddy and pay these guys a small consulting fee to spend a few hours teaching them how to take better pictures. A few thousand dollars spent on consultation, equipment, and editing software can dramatically improve quality, which will boost circulation and garner higher ad revenues. It'll pay for itself in no time - really a no-brainer.

By the way, anyone here familiar with a magazine called La Passion des Couteaux?
 
Buddy, I agree with you wholeheartedly.
On a side note, I'm also often amazed at how many blatant spelling and grammatical errors get by the editors - this is true of all the knife publications. It's very unprofessional.


You pointed out the most egregious sin that KI commits with an amazing and glaring consistency... Heck, on the cover of the last issue was the biggest gaff I've seen in some time - misspelling a very prominent maker's name! And then it gets worse - once you get inside, sentences and whole paragraphs disappear... Hey, hire a phreaking proofreader! I find it totally unprofessional to come across an article that is missing significant sections as pics are added in or the story goes across to another page...

And that is the second reason and most irritating for why I won't subscribe to KI...

As to the other two principal rags; I don't see anywhere near the glaring mistakes as in KI...

As to the photography issue, well, WWG raised a great point, but I still think the magazines could do a better job with respect to quality of photos... However, they can't 'generate' the knives, so it does take some effort on the part of the makers.
 
We in the custom knife community need to support the knife mags or they will go to the factory side completely. I don't care for Knives Illustrated much anymore (used to be a great mag) and don't like every issue of Blade but Blade does a good job overall and I look forward to it each month. I would like to see a custom only mag but there would not be enough advertizing to make it work (maybe one day). If enough folks would write the mags about their likes and dislikes, I feel it could make a difference.
 
Pages 10 and 11 of the Dec 2006 issue show a bunch of knives, but it's hard to figure out which knife is which due to the lousy photography and the lack of numbers to indicate what knife your looking at. I doubt if I'll renew my subscription.
 
The dead tree media is just that, dead.

They may not know it just yet, and may hang around for another decade or two on life support, but after that you can stick a fork in 'em. The incredible wealth of knowledge and opinions of the people on this site, the ability to search the archives, the fabulous digital images that are hosted on the site or by individuals, far surpass any paper magazine that is two months old when it hits your mail box.

I confess that I will buy an occasional Blade magazine, when Roger P is writting about Dan Farr knives that I can't buy, or to look at the list of websites, but that's it.
 
Hi Sunfish,

You summed it up very nicely. Would love to see a custom knife magazine, but there is not enough makers that would advertise to make a go of it.

In order for the knife magazines to stay in business they have to show a profit. The majority of their money comes from the factories. Generally the factories will spend the money for better quality photos because they understand a good looking photo of their knife will generate sales. As well, they will be able to divide up the cost of the photo between the 25,000 knives they will sell, this makes it a simple business decision. THe factories, being some kind of business entity will be able to expense to their business. Most knife makers are not a business entity as such they don't know they can write off their photography.

Cancelling subscriptions will not help the custom side of the house. That just means the magazines will make that up from the factory side of knives.

I do agree that writing the editors will make a difference, but it has to be more than one or two people.

If makers want to see better pictures of their knives in magazines....get professional grade photos of your knives.

If collectors want to see better photos of knives, offer to split the cost of the photo with the maker. YOu will get to tell your friends that your knife has been "published" and the maker will get more of their knives in the magazine. This will be a win-win for collectors and makers.

WWG
President
Arbitrage Custom Knives.
 
I didnt renew my KI subscription either. I cant believe all the editing errors and ignorance in some of the stories. The mag is so thin now that its silly. I dont know if I want them to do a shop tour here even if they call me. I think they will just go by the wayside if they dont hire somebody who can spell.
 
I didnt renew my KI subscription either. I cant believe all the editing errors and ignorance in some of the stories. The mag is so thin now that its silly. I dont know if I want them to do a shop tour here even if they call me. I think they will just go by the wayside if they dont hire somebody who can spell.

And to think, a few years ago it was much worse. There were so many typos, spelling errors and incorrect photograph descriptions that it was difficult to even follow the articles.

I like WWG's idea about splitting the cost with the maker for getting high quality photos done of knives he is making for me. I think I will talk to Coop about this. If I were to do something like that, I think I would want to have a copy of the photos for myself as well.
 
I am all for the best quality images in EVERY magazine. Some magazines are better than others. (For photography, I will submit that 'La Passion des Couteaux' sets the world standard on clarity, color, and interest. They really work hard at this.)

I am priviledged ANY time one of my clients work gets published. That said, it would not do me, nor my clients any good whatsoever to critique any magazine that may promote them. Bruce Voyles and Knives Illustrated has treated my work fairly and consistently. I am not unsubscribing.

Paper magazines going away? I DON'T think so. There are (were?) two online magazines which cover customs extensively. I wish there was more acceptance and exposure, but even the online crowd pays little notice. (Did anyone know I had a lengthy interview and article in one lately? I thought not.... :()

Consultation fee for setup and education? HA! I have been GIVING this information away for years. You know it's as simple as a $75.00 bill..... Anyone who fails that test is simply not trying. Look in the Gallery...

There has been a number of times where a collector has collaborated with a maker for cost coverage on a piece. That's smart. Plus, I am flexible. (Keith, give me a holler anytime.)

Read my sig line once again....!

Coop
 
I've found it a lot harder than it should be to get good photos accepted with an article.

It might be that there are just too many knife magazines right now, but these things have a way of working themselves out.

I have a couple of articles in the hopper right now. Whenever I need photos,(and I need some for these,) I call Coop. He does a great deal of behind the scenes work on behalf of his knife maker clients, and his photography makes their knives pop off the page.
 
I think that is one of the main reasons I stopped buying KI Magazine long ago. It's visual art and you need to show the best possible work. If Mike is in this month i'll have to make a trip to the bookstore and buy it I guess. He is one of my favorites.
I saw a pair like yours Buddy, with Mesquite handles, that I told Mike he'd have to make me one of these days. I'd sure like to see those Mooney blades. kevin
 
I just looked through the Aug issue of KI (latest issue I have) and it was not so bad, actually pretty good. Some very good Coop images and a nice write up on a Hancock bowie "The Lost Dutchman Bowie". :thumbup:

I've been reading Blade for around 26 years and KI for almost as long, I will continue to subscride to both because knives are my main interest and my business. I try to support all aspects of the custom knife world.

Coop, I have a f***ed up internet conection (Wild Blue Satellite) with bandwidth restrictions and the way they read our usage is another issue :grumpy: If I could get DSL, I would switch today. What little I've seen of the online mags was good but I have to be very careful of large down loads.

It's also easier to take the paper mag to the can :D
 
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