It's Twins!

Rusty

Rusty

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Couple weeks back when I was in Reno, Bill found me a perfect 12AK with one problem - the sheath had shrunk and it cut it going in or out however you worked it. I took the edge down 1 or 2/16ths or so on the belly and now everything is just fine. Marked serial 184.

Then Bill posted that 12AK for 50 bucks,serial 196. ( He needs new glasses or something. The one I got matches the handle cracked one pictured perfectly so it's the same knife as in the picture. Only it's really serial 194.

Far as being unmarked means not knowing who made it - wrong. It's the same kami who made 184.

Anyway,except for the cracked handle it's perfect. So simple - swap them out, and have a perfect knife in a perfect sheath - right? Well, did I mention while I polished the edge down a bit I dropped it and the bottom point of the handle lost a small chip from the very tip and I had to smooth it down. Oh well.

I got a pair of 4" barreled,fixed sight, blued 41 mag S&W model 58's. Matching belt and right and left holsters. Maybe I'll get the local judge to recover the AKs scabbards, basket weave stamp belt, holsters, and knife scabbards in a chain maile link pattern, and dye the outfit a medium dark brown or cordovan. Or maybe a one piece scabbard for the small of the back - one right, one left, and a pair of kumar kardas in between.

This is going to take some serious thinking to make sure it's laid out right to start with. And a lot of fun kicking ideas around.

And to think this all ultimately started becasue I never carried a knife til my boss at State Welfare asked if I had a knife. Not on me, I didn't, and I told her so. She turned to another gal and went (jest tzn) "What good is a man who doesn't have a knife?" I didn't mention the Blackjack Randal #1 clone with 5 7/8ths inch blade in my car trunk. Come to think of it I may have worn that Blackjack into several courtrooms after that. That was the early 80's, though, when I was known to about 5 or 6 Sheriff's Offices as the Social Worker with the AK ( maybe the state's wising up? ) and who officiated at parole revocations ).

Yep, fix the handles and shine them babies up and I won't have no more worries about what to do with my hands now I quit smoking.

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"They asked would I fight for my country, I answered the FBI, yea!
"I will point a gun for my country but, I won't guarantee you which way!"
Woody Guthrie


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Whoa, whoa, whoa, pull this train over for a minute! (Blow off all knife talk and zero in a much more important gun stuff.) You got two M58's? Did you get them to keep them or to sell/trade? I've got a four inch Model 57 but I have been looking for a nice clean M58 for quite a while. Something like three years ago I found one at the Tulsa Gun Show that looked nice. I took the guy's card since I wasn't all that flush with money. When I called him later it was gone. That's the last one I've held. So do you have a source? Are they nice? Are you selling?

Gregg
 
Gregg-
Sorry to break this to you, but I have a pair of blued 58's, a nickel 58, and a blue 57 for working with different loads. I see where they have come out with a high profile rear sight insert to turn the adjustable into a one piece fixed rear ( keeping the ramp mounted front as is). If I don't find another nickel 58 I may have to get another recessed and pinned blue 57 and convert the both over to fixed high profile melted. Can you say New York reload? Two New York reloads?

An interesting bit of trivia is that a 3lb. coffee can ( really only holding between 2 1/4 and 2 1/2 pounds ) can hold at least 30 loaded 41 cal speedloaders.

Oh yes, I finally gave up and picked up a minty newer ( no pin, no chamber recesses ) 4" blued Mod 28 Highway Patrolman for sub-caliber practice.

None were for sale before my trip to Reno last Wednesday when I had my first brush with road rage since I was 21, no-one hurt and wife and kid safe after I led the guy away from the car. Got the cops called and they calmed his ranting and raving down. But we were in the family car and I hadn't anything with me and a wife and child to protect. I'm setting a cooling off period and at it's end I'll make up my mind what to do.



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"They asked would I fight for my country, I answered the FBI, yea!
"I will point a gun for my country but, I won't guarantee you which way!"
Woody Guthrie


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Incidentally, 184 and 194 both have personalities that are kinda roly poly friendly types.
 
Rusty,

I notice you didn't say anything about selling one! (Or where I should look.) Since you have both 57 and 58's you may be the ideal person to ask a question. The guy at the gun show (dealer) who had the M58 I should have bought started trying to tell me something about it that I wasn't prepared to believe. I already wanted one so it wasn't necessary but here's what he told me. He said that when the M58 was in early production that S&W classified it as an "S" frame (rather than N). He said it was kind of a medium frame (in between K and N). I was skeptical since I always thought they were N's. Any comment on the veracity of this story?

I've always thought the M58 was a much more practical carry gun than many N frames like M29 or so. It isn't just the fixed sights. The barrel is slimmer. The whole profile just seems much more suited for holster carry (or as a car gun). But I can go to a gun show and go up to a table covered with collector S&W's and ask about the M58 and I just get blank looks. One of these days I going to discover a stash at some out of the way pawn shop and buy them all!
 
I think that one of the reasons I had good luck finding them was the NHP carried the 58 about the time San Fran PD did. By the time they got it thru their heads the jacketed ammo was for hunting and the lead was for defense, Lee Jurras and Super Vel who pioneered the jhp went under in a tidal wave of Fed/Rem/Winchester hollow point bullets.

On the frame size, you have me there.

What I'll go for, is reintroduce the comercial versions of the 1917 45 acp/ar/super. Now back to appropriate kardas for for the 25&30" Kumar King Kobras. Subtituting 16-18" WW1 bayonet blades is one thought.
 
Hmmmmm.......Twins eh?? I wonder if they'll let you get on one of those doublemint gum commercials? Double your pleasure Double your fun Double your terror factor towards the bad guy across the street acting like he's tough until you pull them out. = D
Good Luck Rusty on your upcoming acting job.
= )

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You want me to give him a fair fight? Hah! If you ain't cheatin' then you ain't tryin'
 
We don't lose our abilities, uncle. It's just that as with unused muscles they kinda droop and settle tile they reach to posterior.

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God made man and woman, but Col. Colt made them equal.


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Rusty,

I knew there was something strange about you. We are in the same club. Khukris and .41 Magnums. I have two md.58s, one customized by C&S and one in the box to be done when money permits. C&S has the replacement fixed sites. I'll add that to my 657 Mt.gun later. Do you have a .41 rifle? I managed to get two Marlins. The two gun battery with back up.

Cheers,

Tad Stratton

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Guns are for show. Knifes are for Pros.
 
You guys are driving me crazy. What state do you live in Tad? Do you have any ideas where I should look to get my very own M58? I only need one! I already have a M57 and M629. Speaking of S&W's, I also have a M640, the little .357 with the humpback and no hammer. That's a much easier gun to always have with you and those Federal 125 gr. HP's are much more comforting than .38's would be. Big, hairy, sweaty guys in leather jackets start making me thinking about the .41 and Cor-Bon 170 gr. HP's though!
 
One of these days I'm gonna have to bring one of my remaining 38's to show to Uncle while I'm up that way. It's a 38 spl. (NOT 357 Mag) nickeled 8" barreled Colt Python Target.

I doubt it, but if I do sell a 41 I'll email my fellow forumites about it privately.
 
*YOU* are complaining, Uncle Bill?

I'm the one who turned over the hill ( 50 ) Monday. Now, here it is only Wednesday - just 48 hours - and I'm finding out that what they said about it all being downhill from there was true. What they didn't bother to tell me about was that the hill was Everest!

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John Moses designed it, I trust it, and that settles it.


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