Ivory micarta?s

[Joe Duder]

Anybody have experience with this stuff?

How does it hold up?

Does it scratch any easier than wood or other micartas or G10's?

Any input would be awesome.

Thanks.

 

[xxwjtxx]

Duder,
IMO its pretty durable; I've had 2-3 knives with the stuff and its pretty darn tough.I'd say only risk would be scratching / chipping the scales if the knife were dropped on rough terrain; otherwise you should be good to go. My .02 is that from a composition standpoint its like a micarta / g10 hybrid. :thumbup:

 

[Kirkwood]

Presume you mean the ivory paper micarta they've been using. I don't have any experience with it so take this for what it's worth. But I remember reading that paper micarta is not as durable as canvas micarta or linen micarta (or presumably burlap phenolics) based simply on the fact that the base materiel (paper) is not as tough. Made sense logically so it stuck with me. Mind you that may just be splitting hairs as I would think any micarta would probably be durable enough for most peoples needs.

 

[solid4ever]

I have no personal experience but I've seen a couple for sale in the forum (none that were fiddlebacks I believe) and the largest problem seemed to be stains on the ivory micarta from leather sheaths. The white really shows EVERYTHING.

 

[Joe Duder]

Thanks for chiming in guys. This knife will not be a heavy user. It's more of a picnic knife. Ivory micarta is really nice in person.

 

[VANCE]

I have no personal experience but I've seen a couple for sale in the forum (none that were fiddlebacks I believe) and the largest problem seemed to be stains on the ivory micarta from leather sheaths. The white really shows EVERYTHING.

It does show everything. Iirc I made the comment to someone a few weeks ago that.."if someone is going to carry this they better carry some sandpaper and scotchbrite too"

 

[Fiddleback]

Thanks for chiming in guys. This knife will not be a heavy user. It's more of a picnic knife. Ivory micarta is really nice in person.

Its one of my favorites from back when I was buying Bark Rivers. It is durable, and wears well. It cleans up easily too IMO. Mostly with washing. Dyes such will stain it and require scotchbrite type attention.

 

[wildmanh]

IIRC my EDKarda has Ivory Micarta scales. It took over a years worth of use to really stain it. And it wasn't the sheath that did it in, it was my dirty hands. LOL! I had dyed a sheath black, wiped my hands, then pulled the knife to cut something in the shop. Didn't wipe my hands off well enough and black dye transferred to the handle. Scotch bright and soap got most of it off. Washed the knife before and after using it in the kitchen yesterday and got most of the dye off. There's still little spots that are just faint smudges. Adds Character. But when I first smudged it, ouch!!

 

[Tim the Wizard]

Get yourself some safety goggles and a 3m half or full facemask with multi-gas cartridge for sanding.

NOTE: MICARTA PRODUCTS IN THEIR NATURAL STATE DO NOT PRESENT AN INHALATION OR CONTACT HAZARD, HOWEVER OPERATIONS SUCH AS BURNING,
WELDING, SAWING. BRAZING AND GRINDING MAY RELEASE FUMES AND/OR DUST WHICH MAY PRESENT HEALTH HAZARDS


PHENOL 108-95-2 <8-12 5.0 ppm 5.0 ppm
5.0 ppm 5.0 ppm
FORMALDEHYDE 50-00-0 <2 .75 ppm .30 ppm
METHANOL 67-56-1 <10-11 200 ppm 200 ppm
MOLYBDENUM/ 1317-33-5 10 mg/m3 10 mg/m3
DISULFIDE
SILICA 60676-86-0 0.1 mg/m3 0.1 mg/m3
SILICON 7440-21-3 5.0 mg/m3 10.0 mg/m3
CRESYLIC ACID N /A <4 5 ppm 22.0 mg/m3

This product is a thermostatic composite consisting of a cured phenol-formaldehyde on a cellulose substrate. OSHA PEL and ACGIH TLV have
not been established for this material. Formaldehyde has been designated a carcinogen on the following lists: NTP/IARC/OSHA
Precautions must be taken when formaldehyde is present In the air at concentrations greater than 0.1 ppmas described in the standard.

HAZARDOUS DECOMPOSITION PRODUCTS Carbon dioxide, carbon monoxide, phenols, methane, formaldehyde & hydrocarbons
Dust Or Fumes May Be Produced During Welding, Burning, Grinding And Possibly Machining. Refer To ANSI Z49.1

EFFECTS OF OVEREXPOSURE:
Acute Dust or fume may cause irritation to the eyes, nose, or throat. Inhalation of Formaldehyde dust or fume may cause cancer.
Chronic A very small number of exposed people may develop an allergic reaction after prolonged or repeated exposure.
Phenol Exposure may cause skin irritation and liver and kidney damage.
Formaldehyde Exposure may cause irritation to the eyes, skin and respiratory system. Formaldehyde is designated a carcinogen on the NTP/IARC/OSHA.
Methanol Methanol has tested positive for carcinogenicity in rodents.
Molybdenum Exposure may cause skin and respiratory irritation, and liver and kidney damage.
Disulfide
Silica Exposure may cause skin and respiratory Irritation. Silica crystalline as a respiratory dust has caused lung cancer in animals.
Silicon An accumulation of Silicon in the lungs may result in benign pneumokoniosis.
Cresylic Acid Exposure may cause skin and respiratory irritation, and liver and kidney damage.

Note: Consult your regional codes or Code of Federal Regulations, Title 29, Part 1910. Subpart G-Occupational Health and Environmental Control, Subpart I
Personal Protective Equipment. Subpart P-Welding, Cutting, and Brazing, and Subpart Z-Toxic and Hazardous Substances. Certain welding type activities
may produce hazardous substances such as carbon monoxide, ozone, phosgene in the presence of certain chemicals, or produce Inert suffocating
atmospheres in addition to the production of ultraviolet radiation and/or noise.
Ventilation: Local exhaust or ventilation systems sufficient to maintain exposure levels to contaminates below prescribed limits may be required
When inhalation controls are not sufficient to reduce the exposure below the applicable exposure limit then use OSHA/NIOSH approved respiratory
protection within the use limitations of the respirator.
Personal To avoid contact use appropriate protective gloves or clothing to protect against cutting edges Appropriate heat shielding garments should be
Protection: used for activities using or generating heat. Eyes should be protected by using safetyglasses, goggles, helmet, face shield as appropriate to the operation

Here is a guide on how to select the appropriate cartridge: http://multimedia.3m.com/mws/media/...s-selector.pdf?fn=Respiratory Selector V6.pdf

But 3m could guide you further.

This would be better than nothing (organic vapor and acid gas), but I can't advise you professionally in this matter.

http://www.amazon.com/3M-Cartridge-60923-Respiratory-Protection/dp/B00AEFCKKY

 

[emoney2277]

Vayu has some serious stuff posted above but that shit is WAY over my head! IMO ivory micarta is beautiful! On fiddlebacks it looks great with the standard finish or the blueback look. I'm a hiker plain and simple. I am happy if I get 1-2 hours a week outside with my family. Half of l the time when I'm out my knife never leaves the sheath and if it does it's because I've found (not needed) a reason to remove it so wear is never a concern of mine. Bottom line, if you like it and you think it's pretty then get you some, that's my philosophy. In my POU there is really nothing I can do to ruin one of Andy's knives. Want to class up a picnic and slice a nice prosciutto and arugula sandwich with bree on a toasted brioche bun drizzled with a roasted red pepper aoli? An ivory micarta ASP with lime is an excellent choice in my book. Cheers!

 

[Tim the Wizard]

class up a picnic and slice a nice prosciutto and arugula sandwich with bree on a toasted brioche bun drizzled with a roasted red pepper aoli

I have to admit that is pretty classy

 

[NoFair]

Its one of my favorites from back when I was buying Bark Rivers. It is durable, and wears well. It cleans up easily too IMO. Mostly with washing. Dyes such will stain it and require scotchbrite type attention.

Do you use antique ivory linen or antique ivory paper micarta Andy? White paper micarta can stain pretty easily in my experience, but antique ivory linen shows daily use much less.

 

[WolfmanMSU84]

I would like some ivory Micarta grips for my CRKT First Strike. Can anyone recommend someone good who is affordable? I'm even willing to work with a newer person and be a guinea pig so to speak.

 

[Rhinoknives1]

Joe,
If you are making this yourself? My experience is a follows.
Paper Ivory micarta is a pain to finish because the dark grit from wet & dry papers embeds in the Micarta. You have to get some fine garnet paper or the reds etc.. And it does stain easy.

If you can find any other the original Westinghouse Ivory Micarta it is fanastic! It even develops rings over time and yellows just slightly. I can't use any Micarta anymore because of the formaldehyde so wear as good mask as Vayu mentioned when you work it.. I sold the last stock of my old Westinghouse about six months ago. Look around. There has to be more of it around?

I'm not up on the other kinds that are currently available.