dear listmembers, has anyone on the list practised kenjitsu, tantojitsu and the combination of japaneselongsword and shortsword together ? if so how does it compare technique wise to filipino systems? i am not talking about kendo , but the real bladework!------thanks, ralph grasso
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There are people who have far more knowledge than I do on the subject of Japanese Tantojutsu. The Tanto was a rather large knife and in some cases, so large that some people NOW would consider them a short sword. With the larger Tanto, if held in reverse grip with the blade lying on the forearm, the point could be about two inches past the elbow or so. And that was considered "Tanto."
There are many different variations on these words and it almost takes a historian to know precisely what any given knife is. In the WW2 Vs. Modern Arts thread in Practical Tactical, I danced around with some stuff that is in this realm as it is an interest of mine. I like to steal ideas from other systems, etc.
Tanto had a full sized guard, Hamidashi had a small guard. The Aikuchi was always guardless as far as I know. Kwaiken could be a man or woman's concealed knife and were often chisel ground. Then Yoroi Toshi which were armor-piercing short knives.
Tantojutsu, from what I have seen, is very viable. I have nothing bad to say about it at all. It is just "different."
There are many different variations on these words and it almost takes a historian to know precisely what any given knife is. In the WW2 Vs. Modern Arts thread in Practical Tactical, I danced around with some stuff that is in this realm as it is an interest of mine. I like to steal ideas from other systems, etc.
Tanto had a full sized guard, Hamidashi had a small guard. The Aikuchi was always guardless as far as I know. Kwaiken could be a man or woman's concealed knife and were often chisel ground. Then Yoroi Toshi which were armor-piercing short knives.
Tantojutsu, from what I have seen, is very viable. I have nothing bad to say about it at all. It is just "different."
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CAVEAT- I have a VERY SMALL amount of kenjutsu training.
IMO:
I would recommend posting a parallel question at www.e-budo.com
It is a real good source for JMA and they have a CQB forum.
As far as tapes as a learning reference goes, I would recommend the videos by Don Angier and Toshishiro Obata. These come to mind as the best JMA work w/ various blade sizes. If others come to mind, I will keep adding them.
IMO:
I would recommend posting a parallel question at www.e-budo.com
It is a real good source for JMA and they have a CQB forum.
As far as tapes as a learning reference goes, I would recommend the videos by Don Angier and Toshishiro Obata. These come to mind as the best JMA work w/ various blade sizes. If others come to mind, I will keep adding them.