japanese scabbard saya question.

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hi, i have read online several differing opinions on how the sword fits in the scabbard. one is that only the habaki touches the scabbard, and the blade is suspended in the scabbard without touching any wood. another said the blade is suspended so it does not touch the wood anywhere, excluding the tip of the kissaki, the tip of the kissaki is pinched between the two halves of wood to keep the sword from banging against the insides of the scabbard. another one said the only the tip and the spine touch the inside of the scabbard. i saw another that has a small interior pocket cut out at the tip, to collect any oil that may run down the blade. which way is the most correct and traditional ? thank you.
 
The rule is that the edge should touch nothing if possible.

The habaki should fit snugly in the koiguchi.

The kissaki should seat snugly in the saya pocket end.

The shinogi can ride along the saya sides on some swords.

I have seen hard felt and/or leather used in the koiguchi and kissaki ends of the pocket to facilitate smooth fit. I will defer to individual opinion of the merits of that technique.
 
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The top and bottom of the habaki fit snug against the opening of the saya, preventing the edge to slam against the omote side.
Ideally the actual blade should float inside the saya, but pratically there will be points of contact along the blade and near the hissaki, and the wood choice is made to prevent it to become a major problem.
 
woodster-I cannot wait to see your blade.
Thanks for the link, stezann.
rolf
 
In the traditional method for Saya, the burnished mune or spine should be the only part of the sword which touches the inside of the saya. The tip and polished areas of the sword should not come into contact with the insides of the saya. This is accomplished by the saya being carved correctly, working in conjunction with a properly made Habaki. The Habaki tapers from tip to back and the widest part at the back fits tightly into the koiguchi or mouth of the scabbard. It is this fit which holds the blade in place within the saya. Also, authentic Japanese saya do have the small pocket carved into the tip to collect excess oil.

In antique swords, collected for their artistic aesthetics, and which have undergone expensive polish, it is extremely important, no an absolute must, that the sword does not come in contact with the interior of the saya. Contact could cause scratches or damage to your new and very expensive polish.

Swords used for Iaido or Iaijustu, or functional swords used for cutting still fit and rest within the saya the same way. The difference being that these working blades can and do make contact along the insides of their saya. Drawing the sword requires a rotation of the sword from the carried position of edge up, spine down. It is rotated outwards between 45° - 90° and when drawn the sides of the blades may come into contact with the saya. Drawing and cutting inevitably causes Hikekizu or surface scratches, which is why these types of swords do not undergo expensive art polishes.

Hope this helps.
 
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