Japanese Traditional Hunter? (no pics)

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I got recently Kanetsune Matagi Hunter.
Does anybody know what design is it?
I saw similar knives in Japan and if it is taraditional does it has any traditional name? Where it came from? Etc.

Thanks, Vassili.
 
That's Greek to me! Can you post a picture? What do they hunt in Japan?
 
I was actaully thinking about picking one of these up from AG Russell. Looks like a nice hunting knife. I bought a Little Caper neck knife from him that I think is the same steel. Its almost like a damascus, but I don't really even know what it is, other than it is a non-stainless high carbon steel.

I think that there was actually two different ones. Hitachi White and Hitachi Blue. Not sure about what the difference is or anything else about them, but AG Russell has several traditional Japanese knives with them. Seems like good steel to me, I have carved on hardwoods with it for a long time and it stayed razor sharp.
 
I have one of those with the cherry handles from AG Russell, and also a similar knife with a bamboo handle and bamboo sheath.

I don't know what the technical difference is between Hitachi Blue and Hitachi White, but I've seen the specs somewhere. The names come from the color of wrapper on the blank steel bars.

Dunno what to call the blade shape either. More like a paring/utility style blade that what we Americans would call a hunting blade.

Sure wish I could read that website. Appears to be a lot of info about that knife style/brand.

Best Wishes,
Bob
 
Based on hamon I may say thst this is traditional for Japam Waricomi with hi-carbon steel in core and raw iron on sides. Somehow here it called San-Mai, however I never here this in Japan and from japanese. It is laminated blades (all blades in Japan laminated, at least majority of blades).

Aogamy is different because of W content which make it easy to HT. Japanese smithes check temperature by color of heated steel, if you heat it more then needed it is ruined. W make it less sencitive for overheat.

Thaks, Vassili.
 
Thanks, a lot!

So it looks like SAKURAMAKI - which make more sence since sakura is cherry in Japan as I understand.
However it is not same 4" blade I have.

Do you know something about this knife style?

Thanks, Vassili.
 
I don't know much about these types of knives but I will tell you what I have learned.

I had wanted a traditional Japanese Hunting knife for years. While at the the BLADE show this year I visited the tables of many Japanese Makers, I purchase a knife very similiar to the SAKURAMAKI in style, 4" blade length (almost a Clip Point design), black Iron Guard and an unfinished OAK Handle and Sheath. The blade is indeed laminated. I think it has multiple layers of a softer Iron? exterior which makes it look like Damascus. The blade is absolutely Razor sharp.

I think the Kanetsune knives in question are sometimes being billed as Damascus or San-Mai probably out of misconception but possibly so that the knives may sell for a higher price...?

The wooden sheath on a traditional Japanese hunter is supposed to be slightly loose (as compared to a traditional tight fitting sheath in the US). I was told the blade should rattle slightly in the sheath making noise which would scare away Bears while the Hunter is walking through the woods.......sounds good if you are NOT hunting Bears. :)

I would love to have one of the Kanetsune with the Cherry wood handle and sheath.


Vassilli - you post great pictures, I always enjoy them. You and I seem to have very similiar tastes in knives, I really enjoyed your post on the Russion knives and have since been "visiting" one on the web (trying to resist the temptation to purchase). :thumbup:
 
Rattling sheath which scare away animals, kind of new consept of hunting. Sounds more like joke. And for bears - they more like warn them that human is near by, and then it is up to bear how to handle this situation...

I tried to find something about this knives - googling on "matagi" (means hunter) and "sakuramaki" and was not able to find anything.

Thanks, Vassili
 
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