John Ek knives..............

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Anyone here know of a place I can check out original Ek knives...not the new ones, but the ones from WWII. In my searching I have only come across a few pics.
I found an old rusted to hell knife that I think is an Ek I will try and get a shot of it tonight and post it.
One thing I really like about Ek was that he employed disabled vets.
Thanks fro any help.:thumbup:
Mace
 
There's still an EK website=http://ekknife.com/knives-pricing.html

There's always loads of them on Ebay, And in my Tupperware boxes:p
 
There are Eks all over eBay. Be careful, though - there are good ones and bad ones. And I don't think any of them would qualify as a custom or handmade knife.
 
Rick, I checked out the website but didn't find anything on the old knives.
Would love to see some pics of yours.

Here are some shots of the one I found. One side of the blade has the very, very faint remnants of a serial #. Knife is 12 1/2" over all and the handle is 5 1/2"

Any thoughts are welcome.
Thanks
Mace

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Looks like a WW2 era G.I. made knife but I don't think that's an EK. He made the wasp style along with a bowie and a chopper but I have never seen a spartan or gladius style done by Mr.Ek.
 
On page 152 of "Theater made military knives of world war II"
there is a picture of an Ek with the same kind of handle. I live in Connecticut not very far from where Mr. Ek made his knives. It seems to me he could have made a blade like this. I admit, of the Eks I've seen I havn't seen a blade like this, but the handle just makes me think it is.
Mace
 
I found a couple of more pics with similar handles on page 135 of "Military knives a reference book"
Mace
 
Mace:
I have an old Ek catalog. Will try to find it tonight and see if that knife is pictured. I believe it is an Ek and was a divers knife. The large handle would allow it to float if dropped. Will get back to you tonight with more information.

Marcel
 
That style of handles was very popular for theater knives as lead wass readily available as was wood and they were easier to tighten up if the blade came loose in the field. Just bang it on a rock and the lead compacts.
 
Page 210, Robert Buerlein's "Allied Military Fighting Knives" A Model 4 New Guinea Bush Knife. One of the harder to find WW-II Eks.
 
I have handled EKs that looked just like that one. I would say it is real :D Very cool blade!
 
Sidehill, Could you post a pic?

Thanks for the info guys!:D
I have always wanted an Ek and have kept my eyes open for one at local yard sales and such. There is a kid that lives around the corner from me and he is always bothering me for scrap. I told him I had some things and brought them over and was helping him unload when I saw the knife lying in the dirt, I picked it up and he said "I found that in an old truck I was scraping, ya want it?" I said "sure" and tucked it in my back pocket!;) To be honest, I'm kinda suprised he didn't kill it...he destroys everything. This knife was in the right spot at the right time to be saved...I know that if I didn't see it it would have ended up at the scrap yard, trash, or fire pit for sure.

Any tips on stabilizing/removing rust? Is there anything I can do where the tang is in the handle to help stop the rust? The only things I've done so far was take a small brush to the whole thing and put some oil on the blade.
Thanks for all the input fellas.:D
Mace
 
Mace,

Paladin Press reprinted Buerlein's book a few years ago. Large chapter on WW-II Ek knives among others. Yours is certainly one of the rare models.
 
I've owned the identical knife. It is without a doubt an Ek.

And double edged.

I read in one of my books, that the idea of those strange handles on some of these was to make them float in the event they were dropped in water. I give up as to whether it worked. Perhaps with the shorter, thus lighter blades, it worked. At least long enough for you to snatch it back up in hand.
The one I owned like this was marked but not serial #'d.

All Eks were hand made. By anyone's measure, regardless of time frame.

I get picky when I hear talk sometimes of what is "handmade" and what is "custom" versus machine made.

Take Benchmade knives. They have a full machine shop running 24-7 making every part of one of the many folders they sell. The blades are ground by CAD-CAM. Yet there are still many operations that require a trained craftsperson to complete. I'd still call them machine made knives. Even though a machine can't tighten that pivot screw to operate just so, it takes a human hand.

I can assure you that every blade that the like of Ek, Randall, Nichols et. al. made during WWII were handmade knives. Every operation from profileing, grinding and hafting done by hand using for the most part, a trained eye to make right.

I still make knives like this. How else would I do it? Once you've made a few knives and see that to actually make an efficient cutting edge, not to mention efficent blade geometry to meet the task assigned, there is no other way.
Its here you begin to see the folly of machine ground anything. The one exception being pocket cutlery, which I've found turns out ok with machines doing the grinding.

Back to Ek. His knives were made (forged, the edges at least) from flat simple stock. They are noticably thin comparied to say a Randall #2. His grinds were simple, done in an "apple seed" profile (cross section), that just rolled off the edges of the stock. He did not for instance, do complex grinds like those found on Randall's #'s 1 and 2's. This is one reason, along perhaps with the amount of blades he produced, that they have never seen the values of some of the other WWII hand made knives. Do not take this as a slight. He and his workers were capable of better blades, I think though his aim was to use what he had and help in the war effort. Get them done, make them work, hand'em out.

I mention that he forged his blades. Several years ago, a display (on plywood) appeared on ebay. It was from bought directly from John's decendants or so it said. I would have doubted that except there it was. A board, with all the stages of the making of an Ek knife mounted on it. If I remember, there was a piece of stock, then a profiled blade, then forged edges and bevels etc... I can't imaging in having been faked. The pix were good. Now when I see something like that, I save the damn pix! I did'nt then and have no idea where it went or who owns it. I would imagine it to be a post war item and probably not the only one he made. To continue a knife making business past the war had to be a tough go.

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If anyone has some pictures they would like to share...please do. Any year Ek is fine by me too.:thumbup:
Mace
 
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