JSP stick legality -- CA

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Elegua

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OK, so, I live in california, the land where if you crack off a tree branch and throw it in your car you could feasably be charged with a major misdemeanor or even felony, to mention nothing of ASP batons, etc. However, you can carry a Kubotan (oh, how generous of the state!) and I have seen solid metal keyrings for sale in local shops...so...my question is, does anyone know how police and/or the local DA would react to the carrying of a Pocket Meteor? And if that's ok, if the "it's just a cute keychain" excuse works, what about the larger JSP sticks like the wang bo & on up?

Thanks in advance
 
Disclaimer: I am not a lawyer etc.

My general answer for the most fascist jurisdictions worldwide is whatever you're carrying it had better be something other than a weapon and you had better not say you're carrying it to defend yourself with.

There are any number of reasons to have a knife; it's a multipurpose tool. There's only one reason to carry a telescoping baton. I doubt any cop or judge would even ask you what a Pocket Meteor or a Bandando is or why you're carrying it; the idea that either might be a weapon is unlikely to enter their minds (if they have minds...). For the longer sticks, though ... what is it? Why are you carrying it? You'd better have answers to both of those questions. If you can't think of any good answers to those questions you'd be better off with a knife, even a knife that might be technically illegal by the letter of the law, over a length limit or something like that. Enforcement of knife laws is always highly selective.

I'm afraid "It's a titanium vibrator and I'm carrying it because I'm on my way to see my girlfriend as soon as I can pick up some
fresh batteries" probably won't work, but maybe you can think of better answers....

-Cougar Allen :{)
 
I would agree with Cougar in that the longer JSP Sticks are not going to be California friendly and you should dive into the "disguised" realm of weaponry like the Bandando and a load for it, the Pocket Meteor, etc.

Also, using a Pocket Meteor or 8 inch Ban Bog Stick attached to your keyring is another idea...if indeed California is "Kubotan friendly..."

Even the Koppo Stick could be attached to your keyring if you used a slightly larger ParaCord Loop, you could still get 2 fingers through the loop and have it in your hand...very nasty.

I am not a lawyer either, and everyone has to make a personal threat assessment of their own environment...

There is a reason why it is called concealed carry too.

You have a right to defend yourself, exercise it in whatever manner you feel is necessary...some may step in and say, "You'll go to jail..."

All of the legal questions are far beyond the scope of this forum in many ways...we deal with how you do something after you have made a decision...it is a hard call to make.

We do not encourage you to do anything illegal, etc., I myself realize, however, that when my safety is at odds with the law...I make a decision accordingly...
 
Uh...what about the V-Gar system?! No one, and I mean no one, will even know you have it on, and you can deploy the manrikigarrote in less than a second! The titanium sticks are excellent tools; you do need to carry them though. With the V-Gar, if you wear a belt, then you're wearing the tool.

I have both the Wang Bo and the Pocket Meteor/Bandando...but I find that I wear the V-Gar daily because of ease of carry.
 
If you want a good emergency weapon try a mini-maglight. I have just recieved an "Enhancer" for my 2 AA mini-maglight. It is simply a wieghted copper end that is screwed on to the end of the maglight. It changes your flashlight into a sap/kubaton. The flashlight goes for $6 and the Enhancer is available from Brigade Quartermaster for $10.

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ED Grendel
 
It might be time for James to consider making
Canes/Walking sticks that will be legal in all juridictions. The cane has reach, and you can learn a disipline that legally lets you carry your weapon.A Titanium tube cane with a pointed crook, and some carvings for raking tender parts might solve some of the legality problems.
 
Intent plays a part.Truckers carry batons,billys,to check tire pressure on dual tires.One was busted in CA a few years ago.It was thrown out.A CHP who used to drive told me about it.Not all judges are stupid.

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