Did you see the destruction video? The RTAK II is 90-100 with a throwaway sheath. The Junglas is retailing for around 130 without a sheath, and 150 with, 168-175 with and shipped. For the marginal cost more, and considering the insane sheath it comes with, I don't even need it in hand to know it's worth it. Once mine finally comes into the dealer and ships out to me, I can compare, but others have already posted enough reviews to cover the fact it rocks. The RTAK II is a fine blade, but the same old knocks on Ontario apply. They're fine knives, BUT, fit and finish isnt as good, heat treat is suspect, the sheath sucks, the warranty isnt as good, and in the case of the RTAK, the handle isn't as desirable. (HUGE)