Junkyard dog II "snap" vs Assisted opening

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NeoY2k

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Hello,
I still am hesitating between Blur SG2 and the JYD II SG2 Ti....

After some first hestitations, I think I'll end up with the JYD (yes my bank is not ok... go to hell xD ).

The point is: I tried some assisted openings, from Benchmade and another brand I don't remember. They had no more Kershaws at my local cuttlery - A Shame! xD

And I notices assisted opening was a bit "hard" to me. Don't like that much the impression to have to force the thumbstud. Maybe are Kershaw's smoother?

Then I wondered: is the snap of the JYD II smoother? Needing less force to apply?
It would then appear perfect to me and I would run to buy this knife.

What do you think about that?

Thank you,
Nicolas
 
Speedsafe is very smooth. The Blur requires less force but neither requires much. The JYD is limited to the flipper, there are no thumb studs. The Blur only has thumbstuds and AO. Maybe you should try one with AO, Flipper and Tumbstuds.
 
only thumbstuds on an AO knife scare me. I tried the thumbstud on my Leek once and nearly sliced my thumb clean off.
 
NeoY2k said:
Hello,
I still am hesitating between Blur SG2 and the JYD II SG2 Ti....


The point is: I tried some assisted openings, from Benchmade and another brand I don't remember. They had no more Kershaws at my local cuttlery - A Shame! xD

And I notices assisted opening was a bit "hard" to me. Don't like that much the impression to have to force the thumbstud. Maybe are Kershaw's smoother?

Then I wondered: is the snap of the JYD II smoother? Needing less force to apply?
It would then appear perfect to me and I would run to buy this knife.

What do you think about that?

Thank you,
Nicolas
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I have both, they both have their merits and aesthetic appeal. I personally think the SG2 blur is a prettier knife, less likely to make the general public gasp when you use it. I've never had a problem with any of my AO knives opening smoothly and quickly, but if I did I would adjust the pivot until it was to my liking.
As far as the "snap" of the JYDII, I'm not sure what you mean. I can open all my flippers easily, but I prefer to use just enough force to make sure the lock engages fully.
Both are great knives, I say get both, but you'll have to decide which one you like better.

spiralarchitect said:
Speedsafe is very smooth. The Blur requires less force but neither requires much. The JYD is limited to the flipper, there are no thumb studs. The Blur only has thumbstuds and AO. Maybe you should try one with AO, Flipper and Tumbstuds.
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What he said.

dedguy said:
only thumbstuds on an AO knife scare me. I tried the thumbstud on my Leek once and nearly sliced my thumb clean off.
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I have found many interesting ways to attempt to amputate my fingers/thumbs, but I never have cut myself using the thumbstud, and I do it often. Just tried it now, not even close. :)


Rik
 
dedguy said:
only thumbstuds on an AO knife scare me. I tried the thumbstud on my Leek once and nearly sliced my thumb clean off.
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The thumbstuds on the smaller AO knives (Leek, Scallion, Chive) function primarily as stop pins. They are just about useless as a way to open the knife.

The Blur has an entirely different feel to it, though. First, the knife is bigger, making using the thumbstuds much easier overall. Also, the thumbstuds are angled and positioned so that you can get good purchase for opening. Lastly, with the AO, you only have to give the stud a little nudge and the knife flies open.
 
The problem with the Leek is that I find myself pushing too hard on the thumbstud so that when the AO takes over my thumb finds itself suddenly in possession of too much forward inertia and fires away right into the blade.
 
If the A/O's bother you, using the thumb-studs, I suggest you try a Cyclone.
You can use the flipper or thumb-stud (You can also switch it to manual). The JYD's are different in that they're not A/O's. Once broken in, they open smoothly w/o the extra force of the A/O.

I know what you're talking about. At first, I didn't care for the Blur or liked opening the Cyclone with the thumb-stud. But I've "evolved" so that it's not a big deal.

The Blur SG2 is a very good knife for the $. Great steel, nice design, good ergos, & you can easily find them for around $75 (Give or take $5 or so).

Good luck with you choice.
 
dedguy said:
The problem with the Leek is that I find myself pushing too hard on the thumbstud so that when the AO takes over my thumb finds itself suddenly in possession of too much forward inertia and fires away right into the blade.
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:cool:...I find that if I do use the thumb studs on a Leek I use my thumb nail to nudge the blade open. Never close enough to the blade to warrant any fear of accidental finger cuts...The "flipper" for the index finger is just so convenient and quick to work that I use it almost unconsciously on Leeks. On my Blur...as described, they are bigger and easier for my big "mitts" to grip. The thumb studs are placed almost perfectly for me and have done absolutely no damage to the thumb when using it. It probably feels much kinder and more efficient than most other thumb stud openers that I've tried. I look at a non-assisted knife with thumb studs a lot differently than I would an assisted opener and I don't look for or expect any powerful "snap" when opening like you might with an AO...Both have their uses and advantages and both varieties by Kershaw are great...:thumbup:
 
Oh yeah, the flipper on the Leek is the way to go. I just tried the thumbstud once for some variety.
 
If you are just after the steel, then the Blur is probably the way to go.
I just ordered one, I'm not big on the lock, but it should make a good medium sized work knife, the Trac-Tec inserts are incredibly grippy.

The Ti JYD II is a very tempting knife if you are willing to shell out the $$$. One of the best knives on the market IMO. High performance in a beautiful package, solid lock, and filling in the hand from the looks of it. If you get the Ti JYD II you should get the smaller JYD as well. In pictures it's hard to tell the difference between the two, and having the pair would be very cool.

As for opening methods. I wish all knives had a flipper, AO or not. The smaller JYD is nice and easy to open, very fun. I almost prefer the simplicity of the manual flipper to the assisted one, nothing to go wrong in the mechanics. As long as my finger functions the JYD will be fun to open.
I usually grind the thumb studs off anyway, unless they double as a stop pin. They get in the way of cutting and sharpening.
 
I use the thumbstub exclusively to open my Leeks. The way I do it is put my thumb directly below the stub and push STRAIGHT UP - not out. The Speed Safe takes over almost immediately. Not one cut.
 
redsst said:
I use the thumbstub exclusively to open my Leeks. The way I do it is put my thumb directly below the stub and push STRAIGHT UP - not out. The Speed Safe takes over almost immediately. Not one cut.
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Thats the ticket.:thumbup:
 
Agreed, for all you "knife experts" that can't open a Leek via the thumstuds, time to really start training those hands.
 
I tried a lot of Kershaws at a cutlery, and found that the flipper of the JYD II don't suit to me. I could'nt manage to get it open with the finger - had to shake the knife to complete the opening.

So I'll go with the blur. Kershaw AOs are far smoother than Buck's!!!! However it still isn't perfect to me.

I'd have loved to see a SG2 Cyclone! And the Leek is really great too.

And I found a superb Benchmade too (I usually don't like Benchmades): the Osborne. Very expensive.

Well well

Let's go for a SG2 Blur! :)
 
I have a benchmade 912 stryker. I like it but not as much as my cyclone. The thumbstuds on the stryker are loose and I have to send it back to benchmade. I can't get them tightened. They aren't pressed into the knife blade. One stud has a female end, the other a male. The threads are pretty fine and I don't know if I have messed those up or not. Anyhow, this started happening after about 1 month of ownership. The kershaw assisted open stuff gets my vote.
 
I have found that I have little to no use for an assisted opener of any kind. Keeping this in mind, the JYD II is a great knife.
 
:cool:...I have to stay on the "Blur Bandwagon" for the way I find I use it. It never fails that I'm doing something and find the item that needs cutting is in one hand and to let it go or set it down will cause unecessary delay or repositioning. I simply maintain my grip...pull out the Blur and open it with the same hand...cut whatever needs cutting...close the knife and place it back in my pocket...all without letting go of the item I had to cut. IMHO the "SpeedSafe" system is the way to go...:thumbup::thumbup:
 
Any of my EDC folders can be opened one-handed, and closed the same way....I have nothing against assisted opening knives, I simply have no use for them.
 
NeoY2k said:
I tried a lot of Kershaws at a cutlery, and found that the flipper of the JYD II don't suit to me. I could'nt manage to get it open with the finger - had to shake the knife to complete the opening.
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Many people tend to say the same thing the first time they try one out. Once you have the feel for the technique though, it will open solidly with no additional wrist action. If you are doing it right you should be able to pop it open in any orientation, and it'll look to everyone else like it is an assisted opener. Pre-loading and then pulling straight back is the key. Don't try to push the flipper in the direction it opens. :D
 
kneedeep said:
Many people tend to say the same thing the first time they try one out. Once you have the feel for the technique though, it will open solidly with no additional wrist action. If you are doing it right you should be able to pop it open in any orientation, and it'll look to everyone else like it is an assisted opener. Pre-loading and then pulling straight back is the key. Don't try to push the flipper in the direction it opens. :D
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Hey it works! I've been going about it in the wrong way. Thanks flipper-sifu, me and my JYD II are happier now :)
 
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