Just got back from "The DaVinci Code"

Daniel Koster

Daniel Koster

www.kosterknives.com
Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider
Joined
Oct 18, 2001
Messages
20,978
Very interesting film.

I really enjoyed the book...AND the film.

There were changes made to the finer details, and several details left out entirely, but I find that I agreed with nearly all of them.

Kudos, Ron Howard & crew.


Tom Hanks ain't so bad after all...


:D :p
 
Daniel Koster said:
Very interesting film.

I really enjoyed the book...AND the film.

There were changes made to the finer details, and several details left out entirely, but I find that I agreed with nearly all of them.

Kudos, Ron Howard & crew.


Tom Hanks ain't so bad after all...


:D :p
Click to expand...
Dan, thank you, was trying to make up my mind, you helped. Should we look forward to a "Koster Kritics Korner" review site in the future?

Dick
 
Dan,
Thanks for the review...I had a good time with the book awhile back and have been looking forward to seeing the movie..

Gonna wait till I get some time off next week to go and see it...
 
I tried to read the book without much luck, then I listened to it on tape and really got into it. Glad to hear that the movie is pretty good; i've been hearing that it's just awful.
 
I really enjoyed the book...have heard mixed reviews of the movie. My concern is that the relatively educated book readers, in large part, couldn't discern fact from fiction (Dan Brown isn't much of a help here), and now we turn it over to the illiterate side of America and hope they can take it with a grain of salt.

Now we get to watch Dan Brown hit the classical trifecta of conspiracy theorists...he hit the illuminati in the first book, and is going to move onto the Masons in the next one. Maybe we can work the trilateral commission in there.
 
He needs to write a book on the New World Order, the UN, and the conspiracy of a few Oil mogul executives who work with selected genius's planning involved machinations of public opinion to evil ends.

That'll do it.


munk
 
How bout the conspiracy to keep us divided and at odds so they can have platforms to run on for re election...

Anyone read the speech made by former Governor of Colorado "My plan to destroy america" Very interesting indeed. I'll be back in a second with a link...

WASHINGTON - I have a secret plan to destroy America. If you believe, as many do, that America is too smug, too white-bread, too self-satisfied, too rich … then let’s destroy America. It is not that hard to do.


History shows that nations are more fragile than their citizens think. No nation in history has survived the ravages of time. Arnold Toynbee observed that all great civilizations rise and they all fall, and that “an autopsy of history would show that all great nations commit suicide.” So here is my plan:

1. We must first make America a bilingual/bicultural country. History shows ... that no nation can survive the tension, conflict and antagonism of two competing languages and cultures. It is a blessing for an individual to be bilingual; it is a curse for a society to be bilingual. …

Scholar Seymour Martin Lipset put it this way: “The histories of bilingual and bicultural societies that do not assimilate are histories of turmoil, tension and tragedy.”

2. I would then invent “multiculturalism” and encourage immigrants to maintain their own culture. I would make it an article of belief that all cultures are equal ... there are no cultural differences that are important ... and the black and Hispanic dropout rate is only due to prejudice and discrimination by the majority. Every other explanation is out-of-bounds.

3. We can make the United States a “Hispanic Quebec” without much effort. The key is to celebrate diversity rather than unity. As Benjamin Schwarz said in the Atlantic Monthly recently: “… the apparent success of our own multiethnic and multicultural experiment might have been achieved not by tolerance but by hegemony. Without the dominance that once dictated ethno-centrically and what it meant to be an American, we are left with only tolerance and pluralism to hold us together.”

4. I would encourage all immigrants to keep their own language and culture. I would replace the melting pot metaphor with a salad bowl metaphor … I would make our fastest-growing demographic group the least educated. I would add a second underclass, unassimilated, undereducated, and antagonistic to our population. …

5. I would then get the big foundations and Big Business to give these efforts lots of money. I would invest in ethnic identity, and I would establish the cult of victimology. ... I would start a grievance industry blaming all minority failure on the majority population.

6. I would establish dual citizenship and promote divided loyalties. I would “celebrate diversity.” … It stresses differences rather than commonalities. Diverse people worldwide are mostly engaged in hating each other … when they are not killing each other.

A diverse peaceful or stable society is against most historical precedent. People undervalue the unity it takes to keep a nation together, and we can take advantage of this myopia. ... Dorf’s World History tells us the [ancient] Greeks believed they belonged to the same race; they possessed a common language and literature and worshiped the same gods. All Greece took part in the Olympic games in honor of Zeus and venerated the shrine of Apollo at Delphi. A common enemy, Persia, threatened their liberty. Yet all of these bonds together were not strong enough to overcome two factors … local patriotism and geographical conditions that nurtured political divisions … .

7. Then I would place all these subjects off-limits and make them taboo to talk about. I would find a word similar to “heretic” in the 16th century that stopped discussion and paralyzed thinking. Words like “racist,” and “xenophobe” halt argument and conversation. I would next make it impossible to enforce our immigration laws.

I would develop a mantra: because immigration has been good for America, it must always be good.

8. Lastly, I would censor Victor Davis Hanson’s book, “Mexifornia.” This book is dangerous. It exposes my plan to destroy America. … This guy is on to my plan.

Richard Lamm is the former three-term Democratic governor of Colorado. This article has also been distributed on the Internet.
Examiner
 
We don[t need a plan; it's working.

{sorry about the writing- my back went out today. I was on the floor in an instant, wrything like a fish. Could take the pain, but not being able to stand or walk is a real b. Might have to get Rob to help.}

The Democrats are not bargaining in good faith. They haven't in many years. That is my opinion.
However- to bargain in good faith, to understand the entirety of a problem, takes moral courage.

Skipping the talk of parties- if we could approach any problem- like protecting the environment while still harvesting product- it would be a good thing. We cannot do that, however. Maybe we don't know how to do that. Does anyone think our Eastern Seaboard Universities teach cooperative learning? Dont we have an advesarial approach to most things?


munk
 
Come to think of it, problem solving requires more than good intentions. Aren't we hard wired to win, rather than understand?
Animals fight.

I think humans have broader win strategies than most mammals. Good looks, brains, humor, charm, money; more than one way to win the girl and mate, beside strength.

The largest co-perative organization on Earth, the UN, is pretty much anti US. That's not a position that will share the truth or help.

My parents think we are in the last generation. Global warming, George Bush, pillage of resources, Terrorists etc etc; it's all gonna crash and burn.


munk
 
I loved the book...and the movie. I personally think that Jesus as Daddy makes much more sense that a bunch of celebate guys sleeping together in the countryside. I always thought some of the disciples were married with kids when called. The organized church has always had an agenda, but I still attend just about every week out of devotion to the Creator who fashioned the biotic universe that facinates me so very much...."Remember now thy Creator in the days of thy youth....."
 
Way back, my New Testament professor said that frankly, it would have been extremely odd in Jesus' society for him to have been a single man. Like, unheardof. Being a 30 year old bachelor would have perhaps made him odd enough that nobody would listen ...

My prof wondered (admitting that there was no evidence one way or the other) if Jesus might have been married before taking up his "public" ministry at age 30, and perhaps his wife had died. There were lots of 30 year old widowers around in the bad-old-days of deaths in childbirth.

t.
 
A small church nearby had on its marquee sign,
"The Davinci Code- Same Old Devil, Same Old Lies."

? The devil wrote the book? How bad is it?


Ad Astra :confused:
 
It's fiction.



There were (still are) folks that deem Harry Potter the anti-Christ...

So, I'm not surprised by the reactions anymore.
 
Yup, it's fiction. It floors me that it's being treated more like fact, when the author's been very up-front that he was just out to write a barn-burner of a good read.
 
Great movie. I was surprised, and only went because my wife loved the book.
She insisted that we go.
I loved it.
Remember - it is just fiction -- like most of the stuff that we get out of D.C. these days.
 
part of what makes good science fiction is that it incorporates just enough of the real world to keep us grounded, yet blows us away with new ideas/places/etc.

So, why can't religious fiction do the same?


It can, but it can't.

People don't argue science down at the pub like they do religion, politics, etc.



Great...now I've officially sidetracked my own thread.

Doh!
 
Ad Astra said:
A small church nearby had on its marquee sign,
"The Davinci Code- Same Old Devil, Same Old Lies."

? The devil wrote the book? How bad is it?


Ad Astra :confused:
Click to expand...


I thought the devil's greatest trick or victory was making people believe he didn't exist?

And now he's out there writing bestsellers? Doesn't sound like a good strategy to lie low to me:D
 
Shann said:
I thought the devil's greatest trick or victory was making people believe he didn't exist?

And now he's out there writing bestsellers? Doesn't sound like a good strategy to lie low to me:D
Click to expand...
I'm fairly sure this was one of those hokey attempts to tie in what you're selling with a hot topic of today.

"DaVinci and the Code He Lived By" on the History Channel was probably a similar attempt to get on the popularity bandwagon...

Even (blecch) tourism is up at some of the locations in europe where the movie was filmed.


Ad Astra
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top