Just looking for some honest opinions please...

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I have been making knives for a little over two years now. Seems like a lot of people are..
I have been very blessed to be able to sell every knife I make for what I think is a reasonable (objective I know) price.
Let me know what you think..

Thank you in advance.
J

Most of my knives are O1 tool steel. Although I use files, mower blades and other high carbon steels. I've done my research for hardening and tempering, and follow guidelines to the letter.

I have acquired most tools; 72" belt grinder, three burner forge, Hapstone R1, anvil etc. I have a decent job, so I don't have to make knives to support myself. Although, I absolutely love it. I am just trying to find my style and niche.

Well, enough rambling...on to the knives...

This is my go to style of knife. I call it the Hunter, I know, not very original... but it works. I am open to suggestions :). O1 with Claro Walnut.
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First hidden tang. Wish I had a better piece of antler. This actually feels great in the hand.
Just need to sharpen it.
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Large Hunter with Bog Oak and carbon fiber pins.
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I also do my own leather work. I really wish I had a machine for this (only because it takes so long to do).
O1 with Buckeye Burl
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Another Hunter model with Spalted Hackberry - my favorite wood.
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honestly...? Ok, you asked for it;

I think taking the high road means paying for a knife maker's membership if you plan on putting links to your site and promotional threads in this forum or any other forum on Bladeforums
 
You have some skill, and it looks like your designs and finish work are of nice quality.

Grinds look good and from what I can see in your pictures everything looks tidy.

The scale pins look a bit canted in relation to the tang.

Some nice variety in scale material. Nice sheath too.

Cool logo!
 
honestly...? Ok, you asked for it;

I think taking the high road means paying for a knife maker's membership if you plan on putting links to your site and promotional threads in this forum or any other forum on Bladeforums

Thank you very much for your input.
My intention was not to promote my website...I do that through social media.
It was to get opinions like I stated.

Not sure what you meant by promotional thread... I didn’t ask anyone to go to my site to look at my knives for sale...just to critique the site...
I can take the link down?
 
You have some skill, and it looks like your designs and finish work are of nice quality.

Grinds look good and from what I can see in your pictures everything looks tidy.

The scale pins look a bit canted in relation to the tang.

Some nice variety in scale material. Nice sheath too.

Cool logo!

Thank you! Much appreciated.
When you say scale pins are canted...what are you referring to? I would like to fix that in the future is why I ask.
Again, that’s the input I need!
Thanks,
J
 
Oh i think I see it now, in the bottom picture looks like the middle pin is off the center line. Never noticed it until you pointed it out!
Thanks again!!
 
Ok, you asked.

Never break the spine at the plunge.
For best corrosion resistance take your finish to a much higher grit.

Why are the blades so wide?

Your edges are rather high which indicates you did not grind the edge thin enough before you sharpened them.

For design elements look at Loveless work for style and design characteristics

You are off to a good start otherwise
 
I'll play.....

About the website:
The statement on your home page mentions that you "quickly learned the art of bevel grinding" however it does not appear that you have mastered it. It also states that you only use "quality materials" like "high carbon or other performance steels". But then you tell us that in addition to O1(I like O1), you use lawn mower blades and files. There is also this line: "Although each knife is meticulously made, they still show signs of being hand made - often exhibiting little inclusions or character marks that add to their uniqueness". This does not scream "meticulously made" to me. I'm not trying to be harsh. My point is that perhaps the descriptions are optimistic. Maybe the text was written by a loved one or someone else who is proud of you and wants to put the best shine they can on what you do. Ok, fine. Just be careful not to oversell. The website itself seems to be nice and easy to navigate.

My remarks will focus mostly on aesthetics and ergonomics because I don't have any information about your particular heat treatments etc.

Picture one:
The proportions look off. Either the handle is too short or the blade is too wide. I like wide blades, but they need some visual balance with the handle. There is also not much practical reason for such a wide blade on a smaller knife unless you need the real estate to have a lot of belly in the edge. I like a wide blade in larger knives that will do some or a lot of chopping. It puts a lot of mass and energy behind the edge for deep cuts. The middle pin looks a bit low. And watch the space between the lanyard hole and the butt edge. There is not a lot of wood there and this will be an area vulnerable to cracking or chip out. The grit of the blade finish looks a bit coarse. Otherwise it is a nice looking knife.

Picture two:
It's a personal thing with me, I don't like faux forged finishes. If you want a forged finish, forge the blade. Correct me if the blade is actually forged. Again, even though the style is rustic and primitive I think a little higher grit finish would be nicer. The fit of the guard to the blade needs some work. There are obvious gaps there. The face of the copper guard has kind of a hammered texture but if you were going for a hammered finish it could be done a lot better. Take a look at John Doyle's knife. Look at the the bronze spacer. That is how a hammered finish can look:
https://bladeforums.com/threads/w1-steel-hunter-with-stunning-buckeye-burl.1762743/#post-20170200

Picture three:
Again, the proportions are a bit awkward. The handle seems very narrow. Keep in mind, when the height of your handle is close in dimension to the width you end up with a very round or square cross section. This makes it difficult to index in the hand because you can't tell where the blade edge is oriented intuitively. It also makes the knife prone to twisting in your hand when performing tasks. Adding height/depth to the handle would look better aesthetically, feel better ergonomically and perform better functionally. Also, the spacing of your pins could use some adjusting. The front pin is ok but could move forward another 1/8-3/16" and the rear pin is too close to the butt for reasons mentioned earlier. I also think your grind could be more even and a finer grit.

Picture four:
This one feels pretty good. Plunge lines that run straight up the side of a blade are not good, even if they stop before they run off the spine. Visually they stop the "flow" of the knife dead in its tracks. A plunge that is curved or radiused at the top not only looks more graceful and refined, it also distributes stresses and lessens the chances of that plunge line becoming a stress riser and a point of failure. Your pins are out of line. The front pin is a bit high, the middle pin a touch low. Once again, you have placed the lanyard hole too close to the edge of the handle at the top. Your leather work looks good from what I can see but attention to the smaller details can raise your game. If you don't have an overstitch wheel and a small smooth-faced hammer, get them. After you have done your stitching, roll over your stitches with the overstitch wheel. It will even out the stitch spacing. Then take the smooth hammer and gently hammer down all the "push up" from drilling and stitching. This will give you a more finished and professional result. And use an edge beveler to take the sharp corners off the sheath edges if you haven't already.

Picture five:
I like this one too. But again, think about blending your plunge lines into your spines with a curve. The pin spacing is a bit odd. Bring that front pin up, maybe in the middle of the first finger cove or slightly farther forward. The middle pin is too high as is the lanyard tube. The blade finish appears to be a finer finish from what I can tell and looks better.

Like you said, you are trying to find your style and niche. Two years in is still very new to the game. You are doing well. Take your time and try to figure out what it is you like about other people's knives and your own knives. Don't try to make knives that other people want. You can't please everybody and you won't have much fun making knives. Make knives for yourself. If you like them, others will see that passion in your work and be drawn to it. Do not be overly concerned with selling knives. Be concerned with learning your craft. Do not cut corners when it comes to materials, fit and finish, heat treatment and other foundation skills. Your style will develop naturally over time as your skills, understanding and exposure to more experienced makers grows. Everybody has their own opinion but I feel it is better to make a handful of very well made and finished knives than a heap of mediocre knives. Always make the best knife you can make.
 
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Let me know what you think.

I'll play.....

About the website:
The statement on your home page mentions that you "quickly learned the art of bevel grinding" however it does not appear that you have mastered it. It also states that you only use "quality materials" like "high carbon or other performance steels". But then you tell us that in addition to O1(I like O1), you use lawn mower blades and files. There is also this line: "Although each knife is meticulously made, they still show signs of being hand made - often exhibiting little inclusions or character marks that add to their uniqueness". This does not scream "meticulously made" to me. I'm not trying to be harsh. My point is that perhaps the descriptions are optimistic. Maybe the text was written by a loved one or someone else who is proud of you and wants to put the best shine they can on what you do. Ok, fine. Just be careful not to oversell. The website itself seems to be nice and easy to navigate.

My remarks will focus mostly on aesthetics and ergonomics because I don't have any information about your particular heat treatments etc.

Picture one:
The proportions look off. Either the handle is too short or the blade is too wide. I like wide blades, but they need some visual balance with the handle. There is also not much practical reason for such a wide blade on a smaller knife unless you need the real estate to have a lot of belly in the edge. I like a wide blade in larger knives that will do some or a lot of chopping. It puts a lot of mass and energy behind the edge for deep cuts. The middle pin looks a bit low. And watch the space between the lanyard hole and the butt edge. There is not a lot of wood there and this will be an area vulnerable to cracking or chip out. The grit of the blade finish looks a bit coarse. Otherwise it is a nice looking knife.

Picture two:
It's a personal thing with me, I don't like faux forged finishes. If you want a forged finish, forge the blade. Correct me if the blade is actually forged. Again, even though the style is rustic and primitive I think a little higher grit finish would be nicer. The fit of the guard to the blade needs some work. There are obvious gaps there. The face of the copper guard has kind of a hammered texture but if you were going for a hammered finish it could be done a lot better. Take a look at John Doyle's knife. Look the the bronze spacer. That is how a hammered finish can look:
https://bladeforums.com/threads/w1-steel-hunter-with-stunning-buckeye-burl.1762743/#post-20170200

Picture three:
Again, the proportions are a bit awkward. The handle seems very narrow. Keep in mind, when the height of your handle is close in dimension to the width you end up with a very round or square cross section. This makes it difficult to index in the hand because you can't tell where the blade edge is oriented intuitively. It also makes the knife prone to twisting in your hand when performing tasks. Adding height/depth to the handle would look better aesthetically, feel better ergonomically and perform better functionally. Also, the spacing of your pins could use some adjusting. The front pin is ok but could move forward another 1/8-3/16" and the rear pin is too close to the butt for reasons mentioned earlier. I also think your grind could be more even and a finer grit.

Picture four:
This one feels pretty good. Plunge lines that run straight up the side of a blade are not good, even if they stop before they run off the spine. Visually they stop the "flow" of the knife dead in its tracks. A plunge that is curved or radiused at the top not only looks more graceful and refined, it also distributes stresses and lessens the chances of that plunge line becoming a stress riser and a point of failure. Your pins are out of line. The front pin is a bit high, the middle pin a touch low. Once again, you have placed the lanyard hole too close to the edge of the handle at the top. Your leather work looks good from what I can see but attention to the smaller details can raise your game. If you don't have an overstitch wheel and a small smooth-faced hammer, get them. After you have done your stitching, roll over your stitches with the overstitch wheel. It will even out the stitch spacing. Then take the smooth hammer and gently hammer down all the "push up" from drilling and stitching. This will give you a more finished and professional result. And use an edge beveler to take the sharp corners off the sheath edges if you haven't already.

Picture five:
I like this one too. But again, think about blending your plunge lines into your spines with a curve. The pin spacing is a bit odd. Bring that front pin up, maybe in the middle of the first finger cove or slightly farther forward. The middle pin is too high as is the lanyard tube. The blade finish appears to be a finer finish from what I can tell and looks better.

Like you said, you are trying to find your style and niche. Two years in is still very new to the game. You are doing well. Take your time and try to figure out what it is you like about other people's knives and your own knives. Don't try to make knives that other people want. You can't please everybody and you won't have much fun making knives. Make knives for yourself. If you like them, others will see that passion in your work and be drawn to it. Do not be overly concerned with selling knives. Be concerned with learning your craft. Do not cut corners when it comes to materials, fit and finish, heat treatment and other foundation skills. Your style will develop naturally over time as your skills, understanding and exposure to more experienced makers grows. Everybody has their own opinion but I feel it is better to make a handful of very well made and finished knives than a heap of mediocre knives. Always make the best knife you can make.

^^^^If you're really paying attention, the above post is likely to be the most valuable feedback you will ever have received.
 
things that stick out to me

1- the edge looks too thick as evidenced by your sharpened edge.
2- I see you don't taper you tangs, most guys don't....I hate flat slab tangs personally.
3 - on the bottom side of your handles, I think you could do alot more rounding of the scales to make them more comfortable

everything else has been covered enough.

see if you can work with a qualified mentor in your area. I think you could really benefit from a 2 day class since you already have some skills.

you might have a look at a carter cutlery kajiki knife. That’a sort of what your knives are like with the deep blade. Perhaps buy one and study it

not everyone is going to do mastersmith work, it’s perfectly fine to make humble knives at humble prices... but you should ask yourself where you want to go with this.

Harbeer

edit - oops, I see Adam already covered the edge thickness
 
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Thank you very much for your input.
My intention was not to promote my website...I do that through social media.
It was to get opinions like I stated.

Not sure what you meant by promotional thread... I didn’t ask anyone to go to my site to look at my knives for sale...just to critique the site...
I can take the link down?

if you are looking for input on your work, great, that's part of what this forum is about. This forum is generally not about critiquing websites. Maybe I'm wrong, but after 15 years here, that's my observation.

my point is that if you are going to use this forum by linking people directly to your website- where you have knives for sale- the minimum requirement that most knifemakers will happily meet is to purchase a membership.

over the years, I've seen lots and lots of makers do the same thing, and I don't think it's right. This isn't ig, fb or whatever social media platform you like to use to promote your work and web presence. This is an independently owned forum that has rules about what I'm referring to, and for good reason.

as for my opinion, I gave you an honest one. You are welcome to do what you like with it. But from my perspective, this thread looks like a thinly veiled attempt to sell knives by promoting your website.

my answer to your question is yes. Take your link down. Or, better yet, purchase a knifemaker's membership and support a forum that can not only help direct customers your way, but can help you on your path to becoming a better maker.
 
^^^^If you're really paying attention, the above post is likely to be the most valuable feedback you will ever have received.
Received as such...
Excellent criticism!!! I need this and welcome it.
Look forward to all the changes I can make to get better. Challenges like this are what make this so rewarding.
 
I'll play.....

About the website:
The statement on your home page mentions that you "quickly learned the art of bevel grinding" however it does not appear that you have mastered it. It also states that you only use "quality materials" like "high carbon or other performance steels". But then you tell us that in addition to O1(I like O1), you use lawn mower blades and files. There is also this line: "Although each knife is meticulously made, they still show signs of being hand made - often exhibiting little inclusions or character marks that add to their uniqueness". This does not scream "meticulously made" to me. I'm not trying to be harsh. My point is that perhaps the descriptions are optimistic. Maybe the text was written by a loved one or someone else who is proud of you and wants to put the best shine they can on what you do. Ok, fine. Just be careful not to oversell. The website itself seems to be nice and easy to navigate.

My remarks will focus mostly on aesthetics and ergonomics because I don't have any information about your particular heat treatments etc.

Picture one:
The proportions look off. Either the handle is too short or the blade is too wide. I like wide blades, but they need some visual balance with the handle. There is also not much practical reason for such a wide blade on a smaller knife unless you need the real estate to have a lot of belly in the edge. I like a wide blade in larger knives that will do some or a lot of chopping. It puts a lot of mass and energy behind the edge for deep cuts. The middle pin looks a bit low. And watch the space between the lanyard hole and the butt edge. There is not a lot of wood there and this will be an area vulnerable to cracking or chip out. The grit of the blade finish looks a bit coarse. Otherwise it is a nice looking knife.

Picture two:
It's a personal thing with me, I don't like faux forged finishes. If you want a forged finish, forge the blade. Correct me if the blade is actually forged. Again, even though the style is rustic and primitive I think a little higher grit finish would be nicer. The fit of the guard to the blade needs some work. There are obvious gaps there. The face of the copper guard has kind of a hammered texture but if you were going for a hammered finish it could be done a lot better. Take a look at John Doyle's knife. Look at the the bronze spacer. That is how a hammered finish can look:
https://bladeforums.com/threads/w1-steel-hunter-with-stunning-buckeye-burl.1762743/#post-20170200

Picture three:
Again, the proportions are a bit awkward. The handle seems very narrow. Keep in mind, when the height of your handle is close in dimension to the width you end up with a very round or square cross section. This makes it difficult to index in the hand because you can't tell where the blade edge is oriented intuitively. It also makes the knife prone to twisting in your hand when performing tasks. Adding height/depth to the handle would look better aesthetically, feel better ergonomically and perform better functionally. Also, the spacing of your pins could use some adjusting. The front pin is ok but could move forward another 1/8-3/16" and the rear pin is too close to the butt for reasons mentioned earlier. I also think your grind could be more even and a finer grit.

Picture four:
This one feels pretty good. Plunge lines that run straight up the side of a blade are not good, even if they stop before they run off the spine. Visually they stop the "flow" of the knife dead in its tracks. A plunge that is curved or radiused at the top not only looks more graceful and refined, it also distributes stresses and lessens the chances of that plunge line becoming a stress riser and a point of failure. Your pins are out of line. The front pin is a bit high, the middle pin a touch low. Once again, you have placed the lanyard hole too close to the edge of the handle at the top. Your leather work looks good from what I can see but attention to the smaller details can raise your game. If you don't have an overstitch wheel and a small smooth-faced hammer, get them. After you have done your stitching, roll over your stitches with the overstitch wheel. It will even out the stitch spacing. Then take the smooth hammer and gently hammer down all the "push up" from drilling and stitching. This will give you a more finished and professional result. And use an edge beveler to take the sharp corners off the sheath edges if you haven't already.

Picture five:
I like this one too. But again, think about blending your plunge lines into your spines with a curve. The pin spacing is a bit odd. Bring that front pin up, maybe in the middle of the first finger cove or slightly farther forward. The middle pin is too high as is the lanyard tube. The blade finish appears to be a finer finish from what I can tell and looks better.

Like you said, you are trying to find your style and niche. Two years in is still very new to the game. You are doing well. Take your time and try to figure out what it is you like about other people's knives and your own knives. Don't try to make knives that other people want. You can't please everybody and you won't have much fun making knives. Make knives for yourself. If you like them, others will see that passion in your work and be drawn to it. Do not be overly concerned with selling knives. Be concerned with learning your craft. Do not cut corners when it comes to materials, fit and finish, heat treatment and other foundation skills. Your style will develop naturally over time as your skills, understanding and exposure to more experienced makers grows. Everybody has their own opinion but I feel it is better to make a handful of very well made and finished knives than a heap of mediocre knives. Always make the best knife you can make.
Some excellent words, put in a very constructive, and intuitive context!!! This I appreciate. It took me a while to digest it...but it’s like a 20 oz porterhouse..needs to be enjoyed as it’s eaten.
Honestly, that’s one of my biggest flaws is trying to get to the finish line too quickly. It’s always been one of my drawbacks, but I am diligently working to change that. It’s a product of not having enough time on my hands (a very demanding career and family life). I do appreciate everyone’s comments!
Can’t wait to see where this gets me! Now all the questions I have will start coming out..lol.
I am already taking your advice and plan to remove some of the knives from my website. I am also going to go back and try to grind a little more on the bevels to get the edge thickness down. The antler knife was my first hidden tang, so I am going to remove it and just keep for myself. (I never should’ve posted it-didn’t even have an edge out on it yet).
I always told myself I make knives because I want to, not because I have to...I’m going to start doing things this way. No need to rush or hurry along.
Again, guys thanks for the remarks. Not exactly what I wanted to hear, but just what I needed to. Another lesson I try to teach my kids!
J
 
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Excellent criticism!!! I need this and welcome it.
Look forward to all the changes I can make to get better. Challenges like this are what make this so rewarding.

This is definitely the right mindset for success in this field. Respect.:thumbsup:
 
Honestly, that’s one of my biggest flaws is trying to get to the finish line too quickly. It’s always been one of my drawbacks, but I am diligently working to change that.

LOL........keep at it and it won't be long before you so dread all the fine, finicky finish work that it will take you FOREVER to finish a knife! ;):D
 
LOL........keep at it and it won't be long before you so dread all the fine, finicky finish work that it will take you FOREVER to finish a knife! ;):D
It's actually ironic John because people say I am a perfectionist. But honestly, I never looked at my knives this way. You should see what I started with! So in two years, I thought I have made a lot of progress.
I looked (actually drooled) over a lot of your knives. Ridiculous, in a great way, craftsmanship. You have definitely perfect this!
I just had a long pep talk with my daughter (22) who is extremely talented in art. We talked about this post and before I could finish the first sentence of our conversation she said..."you took it constructively right?".
It falls back to something my wife told me years ago that has made me a way better father, friend, husband and boss; "It's not what you say, but how you say it".
So when it comes to these forums, the tone of how someone says something is only implied. I told myself if I am going to ask for advice, don't get offended by it (as long as it's experience that is speaking).
 
I'm not experienced, but I buy knives. To me many of your knives look awkward, too wide. You don't show the spine, can't tell how thick the blade is. I hate unfinished flats, to me it's a short cut and faux-forge is trickery. I also dislike rough grit finishes, prone to rust in a carbon steel.

Get feed back on your designs from users. Make some hunters and give them to the most active hunters you know. Practice your craft by imitation, try a Loveless pattern.

Per your website, you only show one side and sometimes not the sheath. Show at least 4 views. People hide flaws (e.g. too thick stock, one side poorly finished, uneven grinds, etc.) by giving only one view. If you give a choice in sheath types, link to a multiple view picture of an example. Show at least one picture of the knife in sheath. Some people find religion a turnoff and others use it as a scam. Not me, but if you want to sell knives, I'd keep it about knives.

Good luck, have fun, and if the knife's not that great, give it away and make someone's day :)
 
(Link to website removed. If you would like to review my website please PM me).
Thank you in advance.
J
Three Dot Knives
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If you really wanted to follow the rules you would remove whats in red. Removing the link dont mean much when you still have your website name right there and ask people to contact you to get access to the site.

Also the PM function takes a paid membership of some kind

As for your knives, anything I would critique has already been said. I like them overall and hope to see more.
 
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