KaBar impact?

[razorsdescent]

Anyone got any experience with these???

I have never owned a ka-bar but since i love my busses to much to beat on them ive been looking at the kabar impact series.


What do you kabar afficianados think of them?


Thanks in advance for the replies.

 

[nolan raborn]

Why the hell does everyone think they have to beat on their knives? Does everyone think they are Rambo or something? If you want to chop wood get an axe. If you want to take off hubcaps get a tire tool. If you want to split wood get a maul and a couple of wedges. Why does everyone think they should be able to do everything with a simple knife?

 

[wicked1]

maybe because the ones he mentioned are intended to be beat on? That rambo feeling is great too. I went out and beat my knife something fierce out fishing. I decided to make spears and try to spear some carp. Required lots of chopping,cutting and batoning. Yeah an axe would of worked better did I have one hanging on my hip? No I had a 10" blade. I hadnt planned on doing this as most people dont plan on having to carry a whole toolbox on their belt. A "simple" knife can do many things besides cutting. Look at a swamp rat and tell me it was made to slice only. Why dont we all carry a 1/16" thick blade and be done with it for cutting? Because you like to know your knife can do alot more tasks maybe not the best tool to do them but it can in a pinch or just for fun or even to practice survival skills.God I get tired of hearing that line of thought. If its not what you want to do with your knife fine but thats your take. Not the knife designers or the other purchasers who buy it for its strength. Do you need a 1/4" think blade to cut with? No, to pry with most definately. To split wood with not really but it sure is helpful.

 

[3Guardsmen]

maybe because the ones he mentioned are intended to be beat on?

But obviously he doesn't want to beat on them.

but since i love my busses to much to beat on them

Razordescent,
As the owner of several Ka-Bar's (impact series and next generation, too), I would need to know more about what you intend to use the knives for in order to answer your question. Ka-Bar does not make a "hard-use" knife that can hold a candle to a Busse, IMHO. However, they will tolerate some hard use. What did you have in mind?

The impact series only differs from the classic series in that they are "full-tang", so that might make a performance difference for you. The steel used is the same as on the regular Ka-Bars, "1095 Cro-Van", which is actually "0170-6 high carbon tool steel", also known as "CV", "Carbon V", and "51000B". A very decent steel that will take a fair amount of abuse, but nothing like "INFI" or "SR-101". Have you thought about giving Swamp Rat a try? You might be willing to actually use them, as they are less expensive than your Busses. Good luck.

Regards,
3G

 

[razorsdescent]

But obviously he doesn't want to beat on them.



Razordescent,
As the owner of several Ka-Bar's (impact series and next generation, too), I would need to know more about what you intend to use the knives for in order to answer your question. Ka-Bar does not make a "hard-use" knife that can hold a candle to a Busse, IMHO. However, they will tolerate some hard use. What did you have in mind?

The impact series only differs from the classic series in that they are "full-tang", so that might make a performance difference for you. The steel used is the same as on the regular Ka-Bars, "1095 Cro-Van", which is actually "0170-6 high carbon tool steel", also known as "CV", "Carbon V", and "51000B". A very decent steel that will take a fair amount of abuse, but nothing like "INFI" or "SR-101". Have you thought about giving Swamp Rat a try? You might be willing to actually use them, as they are less expensive than your Busses. Good luck.

Regards,
3G

Thanks for the info. I really should just put aside and order a FBM (or 3). Im really waiting for the new swamprat knives. I know that they have the 6 up at the company store but im gonna swoop up a rat mojo. and i really only want to save my money for striders and busse (i dotn need another addiction ) I just have a limited amount of time before i enlist (and by default stop buying knives) so i was looking for a shortcut. And i hear alot on here about kabars.

I take it that D2 isnt comparable to sr101? Combat impact uses d2 instead of the 1095-crovan on the other kabars

Thanks for your intrest and i look forward to your response.

 

[3Guardsmen]

Razordescent,
First off, good for you for deciding to enlist! My hat goes off to you!:thumbup: As far as the Ka-Bar "Impact" series goes, you're absolutely right, some of them are D2, and not 1095 Cro-Van. As far as which steel is better (SR-101 or D2), I'd take D2 in a folder any day. However, for a fixed blade that'll see heavy use, differentially tempered SR-101 can't be beat....ok, maybe by INFI, but thats about it as far as I'm concerned.

The Ka-Bar "Impact" series are decent, combat/beater knives. Just don't expect Busse or Swamp Rat performance out of them. For the price though, they aren't bad. Good luck deciding.

Regards,
3G

 

[razorsdescent]

The Ka-Bar "Impact" series are decent, combat/beater knives. Just don't expect Busse or Swamp Rat performance out of them. For the price though, they aren't bad. Good luck deciding.

Regards,
3G

I dotn expect busse leve l performance out of anything other than a busse

MMMMMMM..... INFI.

I might get one to toy around with and beat on. Contrary to what some people say there is a good feeling that comes with beating up on a knife.

 

[wicked1]

Contrary to what some people say there is a good feeling that comes with beating up on a knife.

:thumbup: thats what I said.

 

[razorsdescent]

:thumbup: thats what I said.

:thumbup:


Oh man there is nothing like taking a step back from a wreck of steel that was formerly a beater knife, and exclaiming to yourself that is my work.

I worked that hard. Im no saying intentional destruction im saying hard work hard use.

 

[nolan raborn]

I guess there are more Rambos here than I ever suspected.

 

[razorsdescent]

I guess there are more Rambos here than I ever suspected.

I really dont think that is called for.


I dont habitually carry a kindling froe and maul with me. I do however always ahve at least one good knife with me. You dont always have the right tool for the job so you make do with what you got. I hardly think trying to use a knife as a tool rather than a thing to look at makes me a rambo.

Comments like this serve no purpose but to upset other posters, so kindly keep these types of opinions to yourself in the future.

Best regards, razorsdescent

 

[Rat Finkenstein]

I guess there are more Rambos here than I ever suspected.

What is a "Rambo"? Are you saying there are many people here who sneak through the woods and ambush their enemies with big knives and exploding arrows? Wow!

Or are you just being an ass and trying to start an argument? :jerkit:

I don't like carrying a splitting maul, an axe, a pile of wedges, and a prybar everywhere I go. . .

Post a pic of your carry system for these items. (trunk of the ever-present car?)

 

[pit man]

I have the Impact D2 Spear point. If the handle fits your grip then get one as you will be more than happy with the blade!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Boats]

Lo and behold, some of the Busse assclowning I thought I was imagining.

First, a guy afraid to use his Busses as "intended." Just like a poseur who trucks his hog to Sturgis in a trailer. Seems to imply that a Ka-Bar can only be loved if one can treat it like trash.

Another poster makes a keen observation that maybe, especially in a car, one should carry some proper tools.

Then comes a semi-literate rant in praise of knife abuse and how nothing less than quarter inch stock will really do. No mention of Busse, so you don't have to own the carp spearer.

Then a half hearted endorsement of Ka-Bar, but wouldn't a Busse basic or SRKW really fit the bill better? Hardly, the OP needs a sub-$80.00 knife to actually bring himself to put one through its paces.

Then, D2 doesn't compare to SR101? I guess Dozier should just give up.

Then the insightful "don't expect a Ka-Bar to be a Busse or a SRKW."

For one third the price of many Busses and half or more many SRKW knives, a Ka-Bar had better not match those in performance. Oh yeah, the master said that too.

Then the comment that the Ka-Bar will be bought to perhaps "toy around with." Maybe I should get a Busse, be afraid to use it, and then call it a day, putting it up on the shelf like a valuable toy?:barf:

Then some backing off from the Johnny Knoxville mentality, but not too much.:jerkit:

Then nolan raborn calls it likes he sees it. . .

. . .and the targets of his derision take offense, pay no mind that they have heretofore come off like two guys sharing a brain. I don't never prepare, but I always gots me a knife.

In that same post, from the guy who won't use his Busse:

I hardly think trying to use a knife as a tool rather than a thing to look at makes me a rambo.

I have to agree with that one. He'd have to use his knife to pretend to be Rambo. The metrosexual types are the ones who buy knives just to look at them.

Then there was this extra special bit of hypocrisy:

Comments like this serve no purpose but to upset other posters, so kindly keep these types of opinions to yourself in the future.

Endless Busse/SRKW azzkissing in the most oblique ways possible ought to just go straight to the subforum. Really, who wants to open a thread ostensibly about Ka-Bars to watch yet another BC/SRKW circle jerk?:thumbdn:

Then Rat shows up to jump down a guy's throat with both feet, all the while calling him an ass.:jerkit:

Whatever, I must have just imagined this latest outbreak of hog or swamp fever.

 

[wicked1]

btw the 10" bl;ade I had with me appears to be a frost by the handles. no markings anywhere on. not even the steel type or country. A friend gave it to me this week and it was still in my cycles saddlebags when I got to the water. It did way better than I thought it would. Took about 3 or 4 hard chops to totally dull the blade.hehe it still chopped just required an awful lot of force. I even pried with it to see if it would break. No but it flexed alot for 5/32 steel.That knife will go into the back of my truck after I resharpen it as a true emergency beater.

 

[Boats]

Maybe that job should go to whatever is left of your SRKW M6?

Never had a Ka-Bar essentially shatter part of its blade out.

 

[wicked1]

never broke a kabar either but then they suck at chopping. not enough weight. good knives though. I like mine.Wouldnt do half the stuff with a kabar as a ranger or srkw or the such. Be afraid it would snap and there warranty isnt quite as good as the others I hear.

 

[Deadhead Archer]

Lo and behold, some of the Busse assclowning I thought I was imagining.

First, a guy afraid to use his Busses as "intended." Just like a poseur who trucks his hog to Sturgis in a trailer. Seems to imply that a Ka-Bar can only be loved if one can treat it like trash.

Your own horse seems awfully high. It takes a bit of courage to thrash a $500 knife if that isn't money you easily have. There are plenty of collectors who never touch their knives...Busse or otherwise.

Then the insightful "don't expect a Ka-Bar to be a Busse or a SRKW."

Made by the very same person who started this thread. Pass the bowl, smokey.

Endless Busse/SRKW azzkissing in the most oblique ways possible ought to just go straight to the subforum. Really, who wants to open a thread ostensibly about Ka-Bars to watch yet another BC/SRKW circle jerk?:thumbdn:

Are you held hostage by your television set and radio too?

Then Rat shows up to jump down a guy's throat with both feet, all the while calling him an ass.:jerkit:

Whatever, I must have just imagined this latest outbreak of hog or swamp fever.

Seems like you caught a big bout of it yourself. WTF are you proving here again? :jerkit:

Jeez Boats...your tirades are sure fun to read! Almost like watching a 4 year old throw a hissy fit

Did the rest of you see the hooliganism in this thread? :jerkit:

 

[pit man]

I'll second that comment on the chopping ability as mine does not not have enough weight toward the blade but don't forget the art of batoning.
Also the spear point blade is as recommended by many survival experts such as Ray Mears.Mine also arrived shaving sharp and as yet has not needed a re-sharpen.

 

[Boats]

Yeah, as if you aren't totally predictable.

Hooliganism? More like Dumb and Dumber with sharp objects they can't/won't/daren't use.

I am not a hostage to anything, but sometimes one encounters a thread so effing stupid one can't help but stare.

So, which are you guys, the Jets or the Sharks? Since where one appears, there appears the others, you have all of the hallmarks of a gang that sings the same showtunes.