Keeping your Balisong in TOP Condition

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Anyone who has a Filipino made brass handled knife knows that sooner or later, it's going to need cleaned up and polished. Often, a regular polish does the job fairly well, but it takes time and a love of knives to do the job right. At times, a knife is going to require more than just polished. If I want to buff out a knife, I have a cheap $25 grinder I use that is made in China. They do not have much power, but they are good enough to polish with. You can buy a buffing wheel for about $5 and the buffing compound is about $5. So, for about a $40 investment, you can get all you need.

Of course when I hear about how often people on this forum cut themselves with their knives, I really have to wonder if they can handle buffing a knife out, without losing a finger or something along the way. Sense I have been working with power tools and sharp cutting instraments for about 35 years now, I have learned a little bit about how to be carefull, but ever now and then, something unexpected will happen. I have a friend who had been using a machine in the shop for over 15 years, and one day it did something it had never done before and took 8 of his fingers off. Now you can honestly say the guy is all thumbs!

About 3 months ago, I got a shipment in of knives from the Philippines that were really in bad condition. It was either more than I could do myself, or if I could have done it, I would have had at least 4 or 5 hours per knife of time involved. So I worked out a deal with Sabo who is active in posting here on this forum. He has a lot more equipment than I do, and also does this for a living.

I was surprised with the work he was able to do. He took a Filipino knife and made it look like a fine peice of jewlery. I did not realize that brass can be just as nice looking as gold. Of course gold is a little bit easier to maintain. But I enjoy polishing up a knife to bring out it's best, and keep it in good shape.

Anyways, if you need some professional finishing work done, and don't mind paying a living wage to have someone do it, you may give Sabo a try, he does real good work. He has a love for hand made Filipino knives and knows how to bring out their best, and push the natureal defects you find in hand made knives far into the background. The luster far outshines whatever little hammer marks that maybe to deep to buff out.

Of course if I had to make a living off of just my knife business, I would never make it at the prices I charge. It's more of a hobby for me. But what I wonder is why more people do not buy out my whole shipment, and resell them, sense I often see Filipino made knives sell for up to twice what I sell them for. Thanks, JohnR7 <A HREF="http://www.BalisongKnife.com
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Yeah, my FHM balisong's handles are pretty messed up, tarnished you could say. Plus when I got my FHM I wiped all the oil off of the blade and now they are rusted
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Good job Sabo!

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Cameron

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There are already stainless steel FHM balisongs that they sell back in batangas. As a come-on to customers, they display these balisongs inside aquariums.
 
I've always loved the water tank demonstration. Sentry Products, the folks who make Tuff Cloth, use a similar demo in their tradeshow booth. Folks, rust is an oxidation process. Oxidation means a reaction to oxygen. Iron and oxigen combine to form Iron Oxide, a redish powdery substance that we call "rust".

Aluminum does not rust. True? No, false. Aluminum is one of the fastest rusting metals known. Unless you've been in a special laboratory environment, every piece of Al you've ever seen has been totally covered with rust. Fortunately, Aluminum Oxide is clear. It's also very hard, up there with diamond, actually. And it also has a very, very tight crystal structure. That crystal structure is so tight that when a layer a few molecules thick forms on the surface, it seals the Al underneath and no more oxygen can get in. So, Aluminum rusting is a self-limiting process. In fact, in many ways, it's the Aluminum Oxide on the surface that makes Aluminum such a great material. (As an aside, pure Aluminum Oxide is known as Sapphire and with just the right tiny bit of contamination, it takes on a firey red color and changes its name to Ruby.)

So, the falacy of the water tank demonstration is that the water keeps the oxygen away from the metal. Oh, yes, there is free oxygen in water, but the concentration is significantly less than that of air. Metal rusts significantly slower under water.

Did you see the pictures of the Titanic? Broken from its fall to the ocean floor, yes, but still in remarkable condition. Certainly not covered with rust.

Brass is a difficult case because it has much lower resistance to solvents than most metals. Those solvents include the oils on your hands. Fingerprints left on brass can etch into the surface and become permanent (removable only by polishing off the surface) very quickly.

The steel used on most FHM knives is not very stainless. FHM knives should always be kept with a thin layer of oil on the blade.

Polishing makes a knife look very good, it's true. But don't ever polish a collectible knife. The patina of age is part of what makes a collectible knife desireable. Though the finish may be cracked, some paint may have flaked off, and other paint may be faded, a collector will still prefer what's left of Monet's work than your best, paint-by-numbers efforts to "restore" it.

Anyway, thanks JohnR7 for sharing such great information. To keep users looking wonderful, you've given a great lesson.


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Actually, Since our deal, I've kinda gone crazy with it trying to improve on those scratches and hammer marks.

GOT SOME NEW COMPOUND FROM MY SUPPLIER!!!

Now I can virtually remove any and all defects from the knife. Basically a custom finish.

And Chuck is right, I HIGHLY recommend oil as the processes that I use eliminate all oil from the part!

Email for quote! I can do a fast turn around!

Kind regards,

Sabo 29

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bttt!

Does anyone out there have a HMF that they would like a custom finish on?

Regards,

Sabo 29

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[This message has been edited by Sabo (edited 11-05-2000).]
 
>>Does anyone out there have a HMF that they would like a custom finish on?

I was surprised at how good the bone handled one came out. I thought that one was pretty much a lost cause and it came out better than some of the others. www.BalisongKnife.com Thanks, JohnR7
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