Ken Onion -- Aqua

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The Aqua is the Vapor's big brother. 4" blade, 8.25" OAL; has Speedsafe and small flipper. The knife has a smooth, organic look to it, almost like it was grown instead of machined into shape.

This came from Larry B's private Onion vault, and I am greatly pleased to be the new owner.
 
Nice looking piece! I like the FLOWING lines a lot. I'm not so sure about the holes, but it just a matter of taste. What is the blade steel?
 
The steel is BG42 or ATS34, unfortunately I lost my notes and have to go from memory on this.

I like the holes but as you say, it's a matter of taste. Subjectivity rules the roost.
 
That is one GORGEOUS knife...are they commonly availble or custom by Ken Onion only? What would one like that sell for? Smooth action? Compare it to a Tom Mayo please.

Sproles
 
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I think I might like the clip side even more than the front, and I've never said that about a knife before.

Sproles, this is one of Ken's full custom designs. Consider that the Mid-Tech Onions (handles are CNCed, rather than hand done) are going for $800 and up and I think you could expect a knife like this to be in the $1000 plus area. That is, if you can find one like it, which I think would be none too easy. Ken has made more than one of the Vapor knife, but I don't know if he will make another one of these.

Compare it to a Tom Mayo:

Well, one is a knife and one is an aging surf bum who abuses drill presses and claims that he makes those TNT knives. Certainly this cannot be true--this "Mayo" person is perhaps a fictional character made up by Ken so that he can be left alone to make knives. Tom MAYO and Ken ONION? Haven't you ever wondered about that??

OK, seriously now...the major differences would be the Speedsafe/flipper mechanism on the Onion, and the use of Talonite on the TNT. The TNT is completely rust free, the Onion is an auto, for all practical intent and purposes. A TNT comparable to this particular Onion would be an XL size, and is built more stoutly (thicker blade and bolsters) than the Onion. Both knives have holes, both are radiused or contoured to make them feel comfortable in the hand. Maybe the Onion is a bit more decorative than the TNT, but both are very understated, functional designs. There is absolutely no way for me to come to a finding that one is better than the other, these are two different knifemakers' conception of what a knife should be, and as personalities differ, the design points differ. In my opinion, you are not going to find a better tactical folder than what these two hamburger toppings/knifemakers are producing.
 
From your excellent photos, the finish on the custom Onion looks, can I use the word, PERFECT! Very, very nice.......;)
 
Chatting in mIRC tonight and the conversation came around to one of Ken's customs, couldn't remember the name right off, new it was something about water and Chisel remembered it was Aqua...so I searched and found this thread and thought I'd revive it for the sake of the beautiful pics here!
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I got a chance to meet Steve last week and examine this Vapor as well as the new Aqua he picked up from Ken at the BAKCA Show. Really nice meeting you, Steve, you should do us all a favor and try and post pictures of some of you other pieces, that RJ Martin maybe?

I was lucky enough to pick up a Mid-tech Boa with an inlaid leaf style lock. Great construction, fit and finish on it, but Mr. Onions frame locks are extremely well made knives, among the best I have ever seen. He said that he was going to use frame locks on his next batch of Mid-techs, and I expect they will be of just as high a quality as the custom pieces he makes.
 
Honestly, why wouldn't any Onion mid tech be any bit as good as a "custom" Onion. A mid tech contains just about as much of Ken's sweat talent and artistry as a full on custom. Having parts cnc'd for mid techs save him about an hour or 2 at most per knife. A monkey can cut out parts on a bandsaw and Ken is not proving anything to anyone by doing this as opposed to getting cnc'd parts. He is just more honest in making the distinction between his customs and his cnc'd creations than are other makers who use cnc'd parts, just in case someone out there actually cares. His prices for his knives (lower for mid techs) also reflects this. If he can get a reliable source for mid tech parts where he can get them on demand as opposed to begging for them or waiting forever then he will start putting out more mid techs to take care of some of the demand for his knives. If this happens you'll be seeing mid tech aquas and some othermodels. Ken is hoping that the time saved in producing some mid techs will free up some time for him to concentrate on designing and producing more full blown customs which is what he really wants to concentrate on. He has so many ideas and concepts rattling around in his head and really no time to pursue r&d that unfortunately some things get put aside and never really see the light of day. Believe me some of you guys would really love seeing some of the sh*t that Ken dreams up.


Jeff
 
Originally posted by imp
Honestly, why wouldn't any Onion mid tech be any bit as good as a "custom" Onion.


Jeff

I agree, I am very happy with the quality of the Mid-Tech Boa I was able to get, and I think Ken's using a frame lock on the next batch will be a big advantage. Just wish I was able to get one myself!:)
 
I must have missed this the first time around.

That is a darn fine looking knife. Thanks for bringing this topic back so that I couls see the pictures.
 
James, nice meeting and getting a chance to talk at BAKCA. Not many people notice RJ's folder among my other knives, but it's a favorite of mine. I took some pictures over the weekend, and will post them in another thread. Here are some pictures of my new Aqua, which is in my opinion about as completely different from my first one as it could be and still be an Aqua. This is koa wood, a liner lock with a more Onionish blade shape (for lack of better terminology--I don't know what Ken calls this one).

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Thanks James, besides agreeing with you, all I'm going to say now is...more to come!
 
Wow what a gorgeous grind! Thanks for sharing!!!


"Hunters seeks what they [WANT].., Seekers hunt wha they [NEED]"
 
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