Kershaw Induction G&G Hawk lock New Knife 2016 & Camillus Heat Design

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1robinhood

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Just wanted to show Gavin Hawk some love - and Kershaw/KAI some thanks for re-introducing something that looks close to a Kershaw 1910 RAM knife again...

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https://kershaw.kaiusaltd.com/knives/knife/induction


Manual opening
Hawk lock
Reversible pocketclip (left/right, tip-up)
Steel: 8Cr13MoV, black-oxide & satin finish
Handle: Anodized aluminum with glass-filled nylon texture inserts
Blade length: 3.1 in. (7.9 cm)
Closed length: 4.4 in. (11.2 cm)
Open length: 7.6 in. (19.3 cm)
Weight: 3.75 oz. (106.3 g)

" Why? Let’s start with the blade. It’s a drop-point, but definitely not old school. While the flats are satin finished, the grinds—both along the cutting edge and the deep top swedge—are black-oxide coated. On the practical side, the coating helps protect the steel. On the less practical side, it looks outstanding.

Also outstanding is the Induction’s Hawk Lock. Once the blade is open, the Hawk Lock automatically locks it into position. When you’re ready to close the blade, pull the Hawk Lock slider back toward the knife butt and fold the blade in. Simplicity itself. The Induction's handle is lightweight-yet-strong anodized aluminum with a textured faux G-10 front insert for sure grip.

The pocketclip is reversible for left/right tip-up carry and there’s a pre-drilled lanyard hole for additional versatility."

23 minutes, 38 seconds into this video - see video of the knife:

[video=youtube;zNPW2Z4b3fk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNPW2Z4b3fk[/video]

Looks like Kershaw is finally reviving the 'Hawk Lock' of G&G Hawk design - used on the Kershaw RAM ... looks like retail price under $40 ... count me in (Why are they using this lower quality steel for everything though... Unknown release date.

That and the Kershaw Spline:

https://kershaw.kaiusaltd.com/knives/knife/spline

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Also - wanted to note that the G&G hawk mechanism design in the Camillus Heat, Wildfire, Sizzle is really slick - barely need to toggle the bolt lock mechanism to close the thing - nicely priced as well (if only the blade were not black finish - a nice satin or blackwash would make this knife a nice thing. Odd belt clip and a little chunky handle - but overall - I am keeping it in my collection.

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I know I'm probably way in the minority here, but I prefer flippers to have an optional thumb stud. There are times and places when flipping my knife open may not be as well received as a nice slow open with a thumb stud...

The Induction looks okay, my level of interest will depend on street price. And as noted, my interest level would automatically be higher if there was a one-handed opening method available, other than flipping.
 
rje58 said:
I know I'm probably way in the minority here, but I prefer flippers to have an optional thumb stud. There are times and places when flipping my knife open may not be as well received as a nice slow open with a thumb stud...

The Induction looks okay, my level of interest will depend on street price. And as noted, my interest level would automatically be higher if there was a one-handed opening method available, other than flipping.
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Agreed - secondary opening options are decidedly better.
 
kershaw hawk looks good (wish it would be bigger) and the emersons look very interesting. all those little knives, not so much. not for me, is a better way to put it. thanks for sharing.
 
rje58 said:
I know I'm probably way in the minority here, but I prefer flippers to have an optional thumb stud. There are times and places when flipping my knife open may not be as well received as a nice slow open with a thumb stud...

The Induction looks okay, my level of interest will depend on street price. And as noted, my interest level would automatically be higher if there was a one-handed opening method available, other than flipping.
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1robinhood said:
Agreed - secondary opening options are decidedly better.
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Same for me; gotta have options on a folder... ;):thumbup:
 
rje58 said:
I know I'm probably way in the minority here, but I prefer flippers to have an optional thumb stud. There are times and places when flipping my knife open may not be as well received as a nice slow open with a thumb stud...

The Induction looks okay, my level of interest will depend on street price. And as noted, my interest level would automatically be higher if there was a one-handed opening method available, other than flipping.
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Depending on how strong the detent is, it looks like a very pinchable blade. I've actually moved away from thumb studs if I can help it. My folders are either flippers or opened with pinches/nails.

When speed isn't an issue, I open my ZT452 by pinching it instead of flipping it. I usually do this in fast food places when I am cutting a straw down for my daughter. 4.2" isn't as "scary" to folks when it's not zipping out with a massive thwack:D
 
rje58 said:
I know I'm probably way in the minority here, but I prefer flippers to have an optional thumb stud. There are times and places when flipping my knife open may not be as well received as a nice slow open with a thumb stud...

The Induction looks okay, my level of interest will depend on street price. And as noted, my interest level would automatically be higher if there was a one-handed opening method available, other than flipping.
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Sounds like you should be asking for a nail nick instead ;)

I haven't fully gotten on board the flipper bandwagon; so many of my knives are thumbstud/hole that that's what I'm comfortable with for quick openings, so I'd like one just for that, and I'm still sad I missed the MUDD first time around. But for slow opening, no reason not to go two handed. Or learn to open the knife like a ninja/magician, and all they see is a now open knife.

Zero
 
Zero_Time said:
Or learn to open the knife like a ninja/magician, and all they see is a now open knife.

Zero
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Yeah, but the real trick to that is opening it without that distinctive "Click/Thwack!" Otherwise, they're really freaked because they're "sure" you've got a "switchblade". Which we all know means you're a violent criminal... :rolleyes:

Steely_Gunz said:
Depending on how strong the detent is, it looks like a very pinchable blade. I've actually moved away from thumb studs if I can help it. My folders are either flippers or opened with pinches/nails.
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"And as noted, my interest level would automatically be higher if there was a one-handed opening method available, other than flipping."
 
rje58 said:
I know I'm probably way in the minority here, but I prefer flippers to have an optional thumb stud. There are times and places when flipping my knife open may not be as well received as a nice slow open with a thumb stud...

The Induction looks okay, my level of interest will depend on street price. And as noted, my interest level would automatically be higher if there was a one-handed opening method available, other than flipping.
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You do make an excellent point, thumbstud opening is better for not scaring fragile people ;)

Options are nice, but I gotta say I do like the blade only design with just the flipper. It leaves the blade nice and pristine looking, without the stud marring the flow. But, as with everything, all has its benefits and drawbacks.
 
I hate that all of their knives are gravitating towards 8Cr13MoV. I like some designs but I just have no interest in them for the price point/steel.
 
I like some others am excited by this knife, but perplexed why they didn't go with 14cr28mov...but the 8cr will save folks some money. I really like that there will be a knife with such a design at that price tho on principle.

Edit: the more I think about it, a knife with a premium lock design (not backlocks or liner/frame lock) has never been done at such a price point. Closest I can think of is the RAM. I think mine cost me about $60-70 when I got it). So kinda groundbreaking on the part of KAI.
 
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rje58 said:
Yeah, but the real trick to that is opening it without that distinctive "Click/Thwack!" Otherwise, they're really freaked because they're "sure" you've got a "switchblade". Which we all know means you're a violent criminal... :rolleyes:
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You drop another object, or cause another noise at the same time. Redirect their attention. Like a magician. Or ask them a question right beforehand that occupies their though so they don't hear the "thwack" as their thoughts are so loud. I've never had a folder that was so loud it was an issue.

Besides, in North Carolina, you can open carry a firearm. Have a handgun on your hip, and I promise they won't care so much about the "switchblade"- which are legal in NC anyway, so you can always tell them that as well.

Zero
 
I prefer a 4 inch blade/full size folder.......these little 3 inch kershaws are getting played out pretty quick.

BRING BACK THE TREMOR!
 
Too much made in china for me anymore. I'd much rather buy my knives from a company that actually makes the product instead of putting their name on something.

I miss the days when the Kershaw line was 95% USA - 5% imported instead of the other way around.
 
I prefer better blade steel, too, but I've gotten pretty good results with some 8Cr13Mov Kershaws, not to mention 8Cr13Mov Spydercos and Byrds.

My bigger concern is that Kershaw may be beginning to go even further south with blade steel. Previously they released some knives with "Stainless Steel", the proverbial "mystery steel", and now, for 2016, adding in some with 4Cr14 and 3Cr13 steel. They seem to be headed in the wrong direction!

knifedude802 said:
I hate that all of their knives are gravitating towards 8Cr13MoV. I like some designs but I just have no interest in them for the price point/steel.
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I wanted the 1905, and wanted it so bad, and then I saw made in......china😢

I would pay more for a US offering. I won't be getting it now.
 
rje58 said:
I prefer better blade steel, too, but I've gotten pretty good results with some 8Cr13Mov Kershaws, not to mention 8Cr13Mov Spydercos and Byrds.

My bigger concern is that Kershaw may be beginning to go even further south with blade steel. Previously they released some knives with "Stainless Steel", the proverbial "mystery steel", and now, for 2016, adding in some with 4Cr14 and 3Cr13 steel. They seem to be headed in the wrong direction!
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I bought my lifter for $15 with 3cr last year so it ain't new. Shoulda bought the cryo 2 that was $25 at the time woulda been better
 
I agree about the made in china - but so long as the quality is there... this looks to be a $40 knife ... I will try one Model 1905 for that price....

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