Kershaw OD-1 anyone else notice this?

[PURPLEDC]

Ok, so when i first went out to check out the skyline, OD-1 and a few other new kershaw offerings earlier this year i was less than impressed with the new flippers need for wrist action to completely open the knife. After awhile i decided to give these knives another look. To my surprise i found that all the OD-1 knives now will open without any wrist action at all due to a super sticky detent (thankyou kershaw) I feel bad for those now who bought the original. Anyone else notice this? Now me gots a OD-1 in my pocket. Excuse me if this has all ready been addressed. I was just very happy with the change.

 

[eventer289]

It's because the OD-1 uses a different flipper mechanism than, for instance, the Zing or Groove. I've never had a problem opening up any flipper knife, even ones that aren't a predominantly flipper opening knife. It's all about technique. You have to build up potential energy by pushing inwards on the flipper before converting that to kinetic energy by pulling down. The OD-1 solves this "problem" by its innovative "track" like design.

 

[PURPLEDC]

It's because the OD-1 uses a different flipper mechanism than, for instance, the Zing or Groove. I've never had a problem opening up any flipper knife, even ones that aren't a predominantly flipper opening knife. It's all about technique. You have to build up potential energy by pushing inwards on the flipper before converting that to kinetic energy by pulling down. The OD-1 solves this "problem" by its innovative "track" like design.

yeah but what im saying is that the first OD-1 knives I went and inspected needed some wrist action to flip them out. Now they dont need any. Now it takes a certain amount of pressure to overcome the detent so no matter what it will open all the way without wrist movement. The originals seemed to have no detent at all to build that resistance.

 

[unwisefool]

I had one of the first OD-1 knives and it never required any wrist flipping. Neither did my friend's who bought his a few weeks after me. You just pull down on the lever and the blade fires like a rocket!

 

[Locust]

I have one of the original OD-1 knives and have never had an issue with deployment. I'm actually not sure how one would not deploy. The mechanism is not really so much a "flipper" as a crank. If you fully depress the lever the knife has to open.

 

[Brutus013]

There's no possible way for an OD1 to require wrist involvement. The momentum isn't opening the blade, you're applying indirect pressure to the blade throughout the entire motion. You can open the blade as slowly as you want, it will open 100% of the way regardless. If the flipper mechanism is fully depressed, the blade is fully open.

 

[ColonialKnifeFan]

When I played with the OD-1 in Walmart the blade acted like it would not want to open, thought maybe it was messed up. I was determined and I know Kershaw does not make bad product so I bought another one and tried it out at home. With the OD-1 it seems you can pull on the flipper wrong and it won't deploy. It's almost like you pull straight down rather than in and down. Work beautifully now, but the first time I held it I was a little stumped.

 

[Thomas W]

There's no possible way for an OD1 to require wrist involvement. The momentum isn't opening the blade, you're applying indirect pressure to the blade throughout the entire motion. You can open the blade as slowly as you want, it will open 100% of the way regardless. If the flipper mechanism is fully depressed, the blade is fully open.

+1

Additionally I'll state that all of our flippers that leave the factory can be opened with one hand without wrist action. I'll will say that due to not being familiar with flippers and/or bad technique, folks seemingly first go to pointing fingers at the product being defective prior to understanding and perfecting it.

 

[PURPLEDC]

+1

Additionally I'll state that all of our flippers that leave the factory can be opened with one hand without wrist action. I'll will say that due to not being familiar with flippers and/or bad technique, folks seemingly first go to pointing fingers at the product being defective prior to understanding and perfecting it.

Sorry Thomas. Im not trying to claim that any of these knives are defective. Im actually wondering if there was ever a change in the detent. The first od-1 i looked at was at a wal-mart in McHenry IL. This wal-mart carries all their knives in boxes still. This particular OD-1 DID NOT seem to have a detent what so ever. It required almost ) effort to start the blade moving. I will admit on the OD-1 I originally checked out i just hit it like a normal flipper and did not follow through with the whole motion of the flipper which would have locked it open. The OD-1 i just purchased the flipper requires much, much more effort to get the blade to start moving. So my question is even though my technique may have been wrong with the first knife, did the company start using a more powerful detent on the od-1 at any point or change any of its design?

 

[Phillip Dobson]

All of the OD-1s I've handled can be opened as slowly or as quickly as I want with no wrist action. You finger stays on the flipper the entire way and then the flipper tucks itself neatly out of view.

I will say that the new ones I've handled seem to have a better-tuned detent. There a fine line on this knife between too strong and too weak, and Kershaw's right at the ideal now. This detent improvement seems to have coincided with the omission of left handed screw-holes, though .

 

[NDJeep]

I notice that even the slightest of "squeeze pressure" on the sides really made it tough to open. You have to squeeze it some to hold the thing as you open it and I had a tough time finding that sweet spot on mine.

Squeeze too hard and it wouldnt open without alot of effort and squeeze to little and the knife moves around. With practice I hear it gets better...but the Leek is very similiar and much nicer in my opinion(had 4 of them).

 

[Tostig]

+1

Additionally I'll state that all of our flippers that leave the factory can be opened with one hand without wrist action. I'll will say that due to not being familiar with flippers and/or bad technique, folks seemingly first go to pointing fingers at the product being defective prior to understanding and perfecting it.

What he said.

Ya see a lot of threads explaining how the OP has a problem , seems tobe mostly with the OD-1 , maybe because it's such a different type of flipper.

Practice makes perfect , chances are if you see 99.9% of folks on here raving about how cool the flipping action is , that it may be human rather than knife error.

Tostig

 

[Lock1454]

+1

Additionally I'll state that all of our flippers that leave the factory can be opened with one hand without wrist action. I'll will say that due to not being familiar with flippers and/or bad technique, folks seemingly first go to pointing fingers at the product being defective prior to understanding and perfecting it.

You folks have spoiled me when it comes to flippers. I refuse to buy any flipper knife that can't fully open with just finger action. The RAM was the best thing to ever happen to me - in a knife flipper easy opening kinda way.

 

[PURPLEDC]

You folks have spoiled me when it comes to flippers. I refuse to buy any flipper knife that can't fully open with just finger action. The RAM was the best thing to ever happen to me - in a knife flipper easy opening kinda way.

I have to agree with the ram. That knife although i dont care too much for the styling opens extremely well. I really wish kershaw had been the first production company to use IKBS but with the way they build there knives there is little need for it.

 

[2brothers]

I really wish kershaw had been the first production company to use IKBS but with the way they build there knives there is little need for it.

I agree.
IKBS (IMO, In My Opinion) is used when tolerances of the knife are low to make the blade stable.
A "sloppy" knife will seem better if IKBS is used.
If the rest of the knife is junk and you add IKBS then you still have junk.

 

[A.P.F.]

...If the rest of the knife is junk and you add IKBS then you still have junk.

There is something profound about that statement, 2B.