Kershaw RAM: A study in contrasts

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For the first time in my life, I bought a knife twice--I had a rule that I'd only buy a knife twice if the second one was a gift for someone else.

The knife is a Kershaw RAM. I've had some fairly nice pieces over the years. A 41MC, a Kershaw Tyrade, a Blue Bump, a 960 Osborne, paramilitary and many others. But this was the only knife that ever warranted a second purchase for my own use.

This knife has been out for awhile and consequently doesn't warrant a full review--instead, I've decided to critique it. One of the most interesting things about the RAM is that, despite being arguably the best-designed contemporary knife in existence, it's quite flawed.

But before we get to that, I'll do a quick run down of what makes it so great:

1: The action of this knife is extremely smooth, and extremely powerful, with no pesky spring to break. You can have all the advantages of assisted opening with none of the disadvantages--you don't have to worry about laws that refer to spring-driven blades and more importantly, like an axis lock, this knife can be flicked closed as well as open.

2: Ergonomics. They're fantastic. Finger choils used to be the exclusive domain of Spyderco while flippers were left to Kershaw. This knife has both and uses them to great effect.

3: Subtle and relatively low riding clip, reversible tip up/tip down.

4: Blade retention. There's no ball detent, but the RAM retains its blade better than any knife I've ever seen. And yet, when you use the flipper, the blade shoots out faster than most AOs.

5: Versatility. Great all around blade shape, perfect size, and it can be opened slowed with the studs or fast with the flipper.

With that said, my favorite knife is far from perfect. Which is a shame, because there's no fundamental weaknesses in the design--everything could be perfected or improved.

My first big complaint is the quality control. I've had two of these knives and both were hand selected to be the best I could get of a small selection of other RAMs. The first had a deep scratch in the tang of the blade, wildly inconsistent lengths and finishes on the thumb studs and some other minor things I can't remember anymore.

This one still has inconsistent finishing and lengths on the thumbstuds, but it's not nearly as noticeable and the blade is slightly off centered.

These flaws aren't fatal, but two out of two, chosen from a few over the course of two years is not an impressive quality control rate. That said, none of the flaws on either have affected performance.

The next thing that could be improved is the placement of the lock. I love this lock, but it would be better placed half an inch closer to the blade. You have to move your hand to disengage it, and I don't think you would if it were moved up.

One area of concern is the jimping on the spine and finger choil. They're pretty smooth, and the finger choil isn't very deep. I could conceivably see my hand sliding onto the blade because of this.

And the last area is is simply materials. This is the single best design in Kershaw's mid-sized lineup. Why aren't we seeing this offered with CF/Ti handles and a composite D2/154CM blade yet? With improved quality control and materials, this would be a world class knife at any price.

At any rate, I feel it'd be helpful to compare it to its natural competitors: the minigriptilian and the native s30v. Each is around the same price, with the RAM usually being marginally cheaper than the other two.

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I consider them competitors in price and function. These old hands had pretty clear strengths and weaknesses--the Native had superior ergonomics and steel, but the minigrip had a better lock, smoother action and was stronger.

But, in my opinion, the RAM exceeds even these legends. It takes the ergonomics of the Native and makes them better--the Native was pretty revolutionary at the time, but holding it today reveal that some of the contours of the handle aren't placed perfectly. It takes the action from the minigrip and makes it faster and more versatile.

Now, the Sandvik steels probably aren't quite as good overall as 154CM or S30V, but they perform respectably.
 
Thanks for your thoughts. The first "Pros" section had me ready to buy one today but I lost interest after you got into the more objective part which leads me to say - too bad because I agree with you, all your comments are fixable.

Hopefully Kerhsaw will take a gander at this post although I doubt anything will change if the knife isn't moving.

I've seen several knives I would own today if they used the basic platform but improved the QC and materials. There are a lot of potentially very good knife designs out there that are unfortunatley marketed and spec'ed toward "clam shell" packaging so tp speak.
 
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I have one, but it didn't have any QC issues. The lock isn't hard to get to either. I will say it was hard to disengage at first, but I took it apart and used a little mil-tec on it, now it's easy to disengage. I agree though, a CF/Ti model would be slick. I removed the anodizing from mine and satin finished the aluminum.

Great knife for the $$$ IMO.

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I've really wanted to get a knife with this lock mechanism for quite some time - whether in the RAM or the ZT MUDD. I tried a friend's RAM and was really impressed with the action. I really don't like the three little thumbstuds, though, and the MUDD is just too expensive for the kind of knife it is (ie: it's a really heavy duty knife, so I don't want to spend lots of $$$ on something I won't be able to EDC most of the time).
 
For the first time in my life, I bought a knife twice--I had a rule that I'd only buy a knife twice if the second one was a gift for someone else.

The knife is a Kershaw RAM. I've had some fairly nice pieces over the years. A 41MC, a Kershaw Tyrade, a Blue Bump, a 960 Osborne, paramilitary and many others. But this was the only knife that ever warranted a second purchase for my own use.

This knife has been out for awhile and consequently doesn't warrant a full review--instead, I've decided to critique it. One of the most interesting things about the RAM is that, despite being arguably the best-designed contemporary knife in existence, it's quite flawed.

But before we get to that, I'll do a quick run down of what makes it so great:

1: The action of this knife is extremely smooth, and extremely powerful, with no pesky spring to break. You can have all the advantages of assisted opening with none of the disadvantages--you don't have to worry about laws that refer to spring-driven blades and more importantly, like an axis lock, this knife can be flicked closed as well as open.

2: Ergonomics. They're fantastic. Finger choils used to be the exclusive domain of Spyderco while flippers were left to Kershaw. This knife has both and uses them to great effect.

3: Subtle and relatively low riding clip, reversible tip up/tip down.

4: Blade retention. There's no ball detent, but the RAM retains its blade better than any knife I've ever seen. And yet, when you use the flipper, the blade shoots out faster than most AOs.

5: Versatility. Great all around blade shape, perfect size, and it can be opened slowed with the studs or fast with the flipper.

With that said, my favorite knife is far from perfect. Which is a shame, because there's no fundamental weaknesses in the design--everything could be perfected or improved.

My first big complaint is the quality control. I've had two of these knives and both were hand selected to be the best I could get of a small selection of other RAMs. The first had a deep scratch in the tang of the blade, wildly inconsistent lengths and finishes on the thumb studs and some other minor things I can't remember anymore.

This one still has inconsistent finishing and lengths on the thumbstuds, but it's not nearly as noticeable and the blade is slightly off centered.

These flaws aren't fatal, but two out of two, chosen from a few over the course of two years is not an impressive quality control rate. That said, none of the flaws on either have affected performance.

The next thing that could be improved is the placement of the lock. I love this lock, but it would be better placed half an inch closer to the blade. You have to move your hand to disengage it, and I don't think you would if it were moved up.

One area of concern is the jimping on the spine and finger choil. They're pretty smooth, and the finger choil isn't very deep. I could conceivably see my hand sliding onto the blade because of this.

And the last area is is simply materials. This is the single best design in Kershaw's mid-sized lineup. Why aren't we seeing this offered with CF/Ti handles and a composite D2/154CM blade yet? With improved quality control and materials, this would be a world class knife at any price.

At any rate, I feel it'd be helpful to compare it to its natural competitors: the minigriptilian and the native s30v. Each is around the same price, with the RAM usually being marginally cheaper than the other two.

556blu.jpg

41pbk.jpg

ram1910kershawplainjane.jpg


I consider them competitors in price and function. These old hands had pretty clear strengths and weaknesses--the Native had superior ergonomics and steel, but the minigrip had a better lock, smoother action and was stronger.

But, in my opinion, the RAM exceeds even these legends. It takes the ergonomics of the Native and makes them better--the Native was pretty revolutionary at the time, but holding it today reveal that some of the contours of the handle aren't placed perfectly. It takes the action from the minigrip and makes it faster and more versatile.

Now, the Sandvik steels probably aren't quite as good overall as 154CM or S30V, but they perform respectably.




NOW we talking! I would love to see something like that, especially the ti frame!:D
 
The pros definitely outweight the cons with this knife. So much so that I own 6 of them. :)
 
Nobody loves Spyderco more than me but I think the RAM is a better knife than the Native by a pretty fair margin. I think it's one of the best bargains out there. If the RAM had a Spydiehole it would be magnificent!

That said, I must admit I really dislike the thumb studs--all the do is get in the way of deep cuts and make sharpening a pain. I've been considering just grinding them off my RAM.

Just out of curiosity: has anybody done any testing of the lock strength on this design?
 
I have to agree with all the pros. I love my RAM. It's phenomenal, and it has been seeing a lot of EDC time recently, knocking my Spydies and BMs out of my rotation. And that flipper action, soooooo addicting. So smooth and it just flies open.

I've really been debating about getting custom carbon fiber scales to replace the G10 scales and I think it would only make the knife even better.

And I'm also curious about the Hawk Locks strength, who is willing to sacrifice one and send it to Ankerson? I would but I have only one and I cant afford another knife currently.
 
The pins can be pressed out. And while I like the lock, mine will fail a pretty light spine whack against the palm of my hand.
 
The pins can be pressed out. And while I like the lock, mine will fail a pretty light spine whack against the palm of my hand.

Just for kicks, I spine wacked all 6 of mine much harder than would ever happen in real use, without a single lock failure. You've got a dud.
 
The pins can be pressed out. And while I like the lock, mine will fail a pretty light spine whack against the palm of my hand.

Are they tapered? In other words, does it matter which side I press them out from?

I learned my lesson about tapered pins when removing the gas block from an AR:(
 
Are they tapered? In other words, does it matter which side I press them out from?

I learned my lesson about tapered pins when removing the gas block from an AR:(

PS - FlaMtnBkr, you owe me a bandaid. LOL! I tried doing hand spine whacks initially and the tip of my RAM bit me. The phonebook then took over as the test subject for the remainder of the spine whacks. :D
 
PS - FlaMtnBkr, you owe me a bandaid. LOL! I tried doing hand spine whacks initially and the tip of my RAM bit me. The phonebook then took over as the test subject for the remainder of the spine whacks. :D

You quoted me but you didn't reply to my post. Did something get lost?
 
Thanks for your thoughts. The first "Pros" section had me ready to buy one today but I lost interest after you got into the more objective part which leads me to say - too bad because I agree with you, all your comments are fixable.

Well, it's important to be clear that I LOVE this knife and absolutely recommend it. I just think it's fascinating that my favorite production folder ever is also, in my opinion, quite flawed with so much room for improvement. A lot of my knives are basically as good as they're ever going to get, like my Tyrade for instance. But the RAM could be taken from great to amazing with a few simple steps.


Beautiful work man. When I was looking at this thread on my phone earlier I saw it and assumed it was a G&GH custom. Maybe throw on some Firebert scales and a custom STR clip and you'd fool anyone at a glance.

I guess I have 5 of the G&G Hawk custom RAMs at last count too

Man I'm jealous. I would have no problem buying a custom G&GH piece that I liked because the prices are actually really reasonable. The thing about the custom RAMs though is most I've seen don't have a finger choil--I have no idea why. Are yours more like the Kershaw variant?

And I'm also curious about the Hawk Locks strength, who is willing to sacrifice one and send it to Ankerson? I would but I have only one and I cant afford another knife currently.

Both of mine did fine on my basic arm spine whacking--I don't hit hard though--it's such an irrelevant test in my opinion. I think the lock is great.

As per the thumbstuds, I'm sort of indifferent about them. On the one hand, as flicking goes, they're inferior to thumbstuds or even the spyderhole. But on the other, you don't need to flick with them. And both of mine had machining defects on them, the first one was actually pretty obvious. I'd say I'm ok with them--they add a little character, but definitely not the best solution.
 
I have one and have gifted 3 and I'm about to buy 3 more for gifts. I have not noticed any QC problems with the ones I have had so far and this is one of my favorite knives. If it was made with primo materials I would buy 2 or 3 in a heart beat.

This is one of the very few knives that I can not detect any blade play on. Most knives have a little even if it is a fraction of a mm but I can't feel it on this one. It's bigger cousin the MUDD is another that is also rock solid. And when I say this I don't have the pivots tightened down, in fact the blade can swing freely open and closed without resistance if the lock is pulled back. I have medium to large hands and I can also reach the lock without moving my hand around. It would be a little easier if moved towards the pivot some but it is doable as is. I'm not a big AO guy but I really like how this blade fires out with just a press of the flipper. There is no partial opening of the knife and no wrist flicking to get it open.

I am also impressed with the blade steel in it. It is not a miracle steel as far as edge holding but it will get SHARP fairly easy. For me ZDP and M4 love to get really scary sharp and the Sandvik steel in the RAM gets almost as sharp but with less time sharpening it. It also holds it's edge for a fair amount of time, probably similar to 154CM or good 440C. The hollow ground blade also makes for a really good slicer but still has a fairly robust tip so is not real delicate like some FFG blades.

The closed knife is a little smaller than I usually go for but with the choil it makes it feel bigger and locks into my hand a lot better than another knife with the same length handle. Hopefully they keep them around for a while because they make great gifts when I can get them for $45 each. If they ever get discontinued I will probably buy a half dozen or maybe even a full dozen if they get discounted enough. To me they seem like a more expensive knife and everyone who has got one has been really impressed.

I have not pressed the studs out myself but I am 99.6% sure they are not tapered and are just a press fit.
 
Thanks! I am considering getting Mr. Dobson to do some CF for it... but I still gotta do something with the blade, doesn't fit now that everything is satin, but Im not sure what i'll do..
 
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