Kershaw speedsafe slow on larger models?

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Magilicutty

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I just bought a Chive and a Scallion , I also tried a Blackout or Whirlwind (i forgot which) anyways that was all the store had for me to try out.

The Chive and Scallion have a nifty little button the the back of the blade to assist opening and the larger one did not.

The Chive works by far the best but the Scallion is not too far behind and the larger Blackout/Whirlwind was slow and not all that neat.

My question is : Are any of the larger Ken Onion knives fast like the Chive?

Thanks

BTW:The Chive is one very cool knife..too bad its not bigger and built with a better quality blade.
 
The Black Boa is so slow it would be faster to just use your thumb the whole way. I own a chive and a scalion and these two are by far the fastest.
 
larger blades have larger momments, you can compensate by using a more powerful spring, but with more power and a larger momment on the blade you are just asking for the thing to fly out of your hand.

Blame Physics
 
Originally posted by will22
The Black Boa is so slow it would be faster to just use your thumb the whole way. I own a chive and a scalion and these two are by far the fastest.
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i disagree, i have a boa and it comes out at a pretty nice speed, obviously the less the bar has to move the faster it will move it but a half a second is not going to matter all that much
 
Of the bigger ones that I've handeled the Ricochet's were always the quickest. The Boa was sluggish.
 
I too, have noticed that the slower models are slower, but that was the display model. Heck, I could of been fired a few thousand times, and I noticed that there was some kind of grit (sand, dirt) in the inside channel. That's only happend once with my Chive, slowed it down abit. Just used Q-Tip and airgun oil which I find to be just as good as any other oil.

The Chive is my EDC, great knife.
 
As mentioned above, the bigger the blade, the slower the action is going to be. The Boa is probably the slowest of the line with the Chive being the quickest. I really have no complaints with the action on my Boa, but I also tend to add a little wrist-flick when opening which aids the process a bit (I also carry a CRKT M18 with the Carson Flipper so this is habit). I did recently get to handle one of Ken's custom knives (not sure exactly which model), but my first observation was that it was a bit more snappier than the Kershaw Boa. Why that is I have no idea. Since I'm sure that Mr. Onion has not discovered a way to "cheat" the laws of nature, it may just have been the use of a stronger bar in the custom version than the production or perhaps it is just the nature of the "hand-made" version to be better made.
 
I have both Chive and Boa.
In the beginning the slow Boa action bothered me but now, it doesn't.
You can always flick your wrist at the end to compensate.
 
Magilicutty: I own both a Scallion and a Boa. The Boa is the only large speed safe (I believe) that also has that same "nifty little button the the back of the blade" as the Scallion and Chive.

Anyway, my Boa was quite a bit slower to open than my smaller Scallion, when it was new. However, it loosens up quite quickly. The Boa is not my favorite knife, but it does snap open very quickly now.
 
I have to disagree also. I have a Whirlwind, my wife has a Boa. Not only does her blade pop out faster, it seems to open harder, really snapping lively into the lock. Since she's a lefty, she uses the tab on the spine to open the knife.

I don't really see this as a problem. The point is to get the blade out with one hand, and both models work well.
 
I've owned or currently own several Blackouts, a Chive and a Boa. The Chive is by far the fastest, but the Boa was faster than the Blackout. Overall my preferences were most satisfied by the Boa. It was a good EDC without any major complaints (other than sharpening it).
 
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