"Keychain Geiger counter"

Actually, this might be a good idea as standard issue to customs agents, border crossing inspectors and dock workers in a post 9/11 world.

Neat little device. $150 doesn't seem like too much - if it works as advertised.
 
Gollnick said:
$150 and the keys are not included!?!
I had to buy a new key for a Renault van once. It cost 150 pounds. That makes this key fob seem cheap - radiation detector or no!

Andy
 
A.W.U.K. said:
I had to buy a new key for a Renault van once. It cost 150 pounds. That makes this key fob seem cheap - radiation detector or no!

Andy

I once bought a Fiat for $600. Having a key to that cost me thousands!:D
 
I should probably apologize in advance.:D

I have a hard time seeing any value in spending $150 for something that will likely tell me that I have just been exposed to enough bad stuff to kill me or ruin my health.:eek:

Unless you are running around after some kind of disaster, and do not want to enter any "bad" areas, why have this?:confused:

I cannot help but have a mental picture of a chap sitting with his key-meter, and in the background is a mushroom cloud. Too little, too late.:cool:

Or,

A chap holding the thing up to his head to see why his hair is falling out.:rolleyes:

Now, I expect I will get some replys like, what about at the hospital and radiation leaks? I am sorry, but my level of concern (read paranoia) just is not that great.:)

That being said, why do I carry my gun everywhere?:o

I guess different "mental" for different folks!:D
 
I live within 10 miles of a nuclear power plant so it's actually not such a bad idea from where I'm sitting.... :(
 
Peter, I will agree with you, if....you check it every day, maybe even a couple of times a day.

But then again Peter, if your door handles start to glow won't that be a good indication????:D
 
Peter Atwood said:
I live within 10 miles of a nuclear power plant so it's actually not such a bad idea from where I'm sitting.... :(

I live down the road from one myself: The Limerick Generating Station. Forewarned is forearmed.
 
panella said:
I once bought a Fiat for $600. Having a key to that cost me thousands!:D

I would pay someone $600 to take a Fiat away from me if I were unfortunate enough to have one :D
 
I spent a long time talking to the distributor today. There are a lot of misconceptions out there. To start with, the distributor's day job is that of a nuclear/radioactive products testing facility. When the developer had these made, he envisioned a "real time" radiation detector. They cost alot because they are in no way toys. They actually work.

He also dispelled a few misconceptions about how futile having one would be. He maintained that the device works depending on severity of exposure and you can take affirmative steps to get away from the threat unless you are at ground zero.
 
That could save your life if a dirty bomb goes off -- and if that happens it'll be too late to buy one. I guess you just have to figure the odds.... I live in a small town where no one would bother to set off a dirty bomb. If I lived in Washington or NY or London ...
 
BobHWD said:
...the device works depending on severity of exposure and you can take affirmative steps to get away from the threat unless you are...

currently on board an airplane.
 
BobHWD said:
He maintained that the device works depending on severity of exposure and you can take affirmative steps to get away from the threat unless you are at ground zero.
I took Quiet Storm's link and checked out the "More Images" link. One of the additional photos shows the back of the radiation detector, where there's a list of the number of chirps/beeps and how much radiation the number of chirps/beeps indicate. If you start walking in one direction, and the number of chirps/beeps increase, you're walking towards the source of the radiation, or, if the number of chirps/beeps decreases, you're walking away from the radiation.

Is $150 "too expensive" if it could potentially save your life...?

GeoThorn
 
not if it works, has anyone seen any info from any source other than the manufacturer?? i would think it would be certified/meet some std/etc wouldnt it?
 
Practical Use said:
I should probably apologize in advance.:D

I have a hard time seeing any value in spending $150 for something that will likely tell me that I have just been exposed to enough bad stuff to kill me or ruin my health.:eek:

Well, one of the most important factors in any radiation exposure is how long you are exposed to it. In a bugout situation, would it be useful? If it is showing you upwards of 1 R/hr. in that abandoned building, don't sleep there. It won't kill you, but it won't make you any healthier, either.

As I mentioned before, Time, and add to that Distance and Shielding. You can get exposed to relatively high levels of ionizing radiation, so long as it doesn't last too long (and you don't bring any out on you). Distance is also a key factor, because the amount of energy that can do anything naughty to you drops off with the square of the distance. Shielding is getting behind something solid enough to stop whatever the type of radiation you're working with.

In addition, it helps to know that certain parts of your body can take a lot more exposure than others. Your extremities are extremely hardy, and can take many times over what, say, your eyes can, and not be long-term impaired. (They might feel a little crunchy/snappy in the joints the next day, though. No, I'm not kidding.) For some reason, your brain is also remarkably durable, and can take doses that doses that start turning your guts into mush with little harm. Your intestines are sensitive, and should be shieldied as much as possible. If you're really screwed exposure-wise, you would know it because you'd be tossing your lunch, or at least feel like it, immediately.

The only thing that concerns me about this little device is that the ABS shielding will be more than enough to stop Alpha particles. These short lived forms of radiation are not a huge problem outside the body, they can't penetrate far into the skin like Gamma. However, when a little dust becomes airborne, and you take it in your lungs, it's really not a happy thing.

To be honest though, radiation is a funny thing, and it's hard to do long-term studies on it, because people react very differently to it. There are widely varying estimates for the LD50 amount of ionizing radiation, depending on who you speak to. I figure it's best to just minimize exposure whenever possible, but the average human being has to in some strange circumstances to find themselves exposed to anything significant, other than medical reasons. And people that work in the industry (I'm thinking specifically nuclear pharmacists) regularly get exposed to many times over the "average", and don't seem to suffer too much for it. Wait another 30 years for more studies to come out before you listen to me, though.

I work as a radiation chemist/physicist. I might know a thing or two. ;)

Joe S.

edited to add: some customs agents/security officials do have something similar in a pager-like device, that will pick up even if someone has within the past few days has undergone a medical procedure than involves one of the longer lived radionuclides being taken into the body.
 
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