Khukri a no-go

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Bill Sanders

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Talked to my new First Sergeant, and Company commander today. Both told me that any non-US military issue knife over 4 inches is a no-go. I can take my Marine Corps issue style Kabar.:mad: Crap! Stupid regulations. I'll be issued a fully automatic rifle, but can't carry a larger blade. I wanted to take my 12" villager Ak. It may have to go as a stowaway, and appear once in country. Then if I can't ship it back, it could be donated to one of my replacements. Or maybe I'll have it sent as part of a care package.
 
Bill Sanders said:
I'll be issued a fully automatic rifle, but can't carry a larger blade.
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This is a nice follow-up to "Student arrested for zombie story" thread. What is wrong with those people?

Sorry to hear about it.
 
It only hurts if you still believe, after it's all said and done, that government is supposed to, somewhere down the line, make just a teensy weensie bit of sense. :(
 
Bill Sanders said:
I'll be issued a fully automatic rifle,
but can't carry a larger blade..
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They're afraid you'll cut yourself.

:rolleyes:

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I guess they don't want our boys carrying "dangerous" weapons :mad:
They may hurt somebody.
 
Sounds like your immediate superiors have never really seen the dragon. They are more concerned about rules and their careers than what war really means.

Pack it as a stowaway. Once in a real combat zone - where people are dying for real - the attitudes and petty BS like 'no big non-issue knives' WILL change very rapidly.
 
It is quite often that state side military is the drizzlin shlts.:rolleyes: :( This is one of those times.:mad: Stow it away and take it anyway, you'll find it will come in handy I bet.
 
Bill Sanders said:
Talked to my new First Sergeant, and Company commander today. Both told me that any non-US military issue knife over 4 inches is a no-go. I can take my Marine Corps issue style Kabar.:mad: Crap! Stupid regulations. I'll be issued a fully automatic rifle, but can't carry a larger blade. I wanted to take my 12" villager Ak. It may have to go as a stowaway, and appear once in country. Then if I can't ship it back, it could be donated to one of my replacements. Or maybe I'll have it sent as part of a care package.
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Bill, they are the experts, but that sounds like total BULLS&^t to me. How come I read in Blade magazine that custom knife makers can't work fast enough to keep our guys in stock? Not everyone wants to carry a Ka-Bar or an M9. What about all the guys carrying Randalls and SOG's and Beckers and Gerber MK II's and Silver Tridents and Nealy Tantos and Terzuola fighters and Reeve Yarboroughs and Projects and all the Cold Steel factory fixed blade stuff? All those are sure as hell longer than 4"! (Not to mention all the beuatiful Busses and Swamp Rats! I've heard whole platoons are carrying one model of Busses or another.)

Why not go ahead and sneak it in country Bill, and if for any reason you have to leave it behind just let me know and I'll work it out with Uncle Bill to get you another one, as nice or nicer. For that matter, I think I even have one here I'm not using and haven't fixed up yet, in wood, if that works for you.

I'll talk Dan or Yvsa or one of the other sharpening gurus here into putting a real nice edge on it, and with the Villagers that is even easier than usual and I know they would be proud to do it. (I could get an edge on it I think, but don't have it down yet the way they do!)

Villagers are great knives but not terrifically expensive, and in any case I'd like to say I did something to help someone who is fighting over there. The important thing is to have the equipment you have confidence in and need. 1 question: how were you planning on carrying it? Is there a way to carry it on your web gear without using the standard scabbard? Just curious.

IMO your biggest threat with having a cool almost one-of-a-kind knife / weapon like that, is that some "in the rear with the gear" droid officer will spot it and want it for his own, and knowing it's not allowed will just boost if off you for himself!

Good luck, God Bless and cover your butt and do what you have to do! Hope you can drop us a line from time to time and let us know how it goes.

Regards,

Norm
 
Bill, if you need one once you get in-country and have access to email, just drop me a line and I'll send you one. We can't have our guys over there without the proper equipment. Hell, if there'e ANYTHING else you need, just let me know. My email is sferguson2@triad.rr.com

Steve Ferguson
 
Bill, you are probably off line, but I would like to make a comment and hope you get a chance to read it later while I'm at work. :)

I found individual platoon officers are predijuced against free thinkers. The CO usually set the standards. Many after market knives are used and carried already mentioned. I say pick your favorite and stow it. Do not take it out and "play" with it. Don't show it off!

I know this may be difficult to follow because they are so neat and fun to use. But when your feet hit the ground, alter your thinking. Your'e not there to play.

The truth is you will not want to carry too much while on deployment. Ammo, water, food, and a clean weapon is most important.

Good luck and God Bless!
 
Man that sucks:(. I think big knives should have a place in the millitary. I think i remember reading a thread a few years back where some one carried a 15" AK in 'stan or the early part of Iraq and the hostiles responded with more fear of the knife than that of the automatic rifles the GIs carried. That's the weird thing about guns compared to knives. A gun is a magic stick that once you pull the trigger a series of events happens all in the blink of an eye. A flash, a bang, and your enemy has a bunch of neatly punctured holes in him. He staggers, falls over, and expires. A knife with a 13" blade, OTOH, is very personal. If you engage the enemy with a blade he probably won't die quickly. Horrible gashes, the sound of a wege of steel tearing through tough muscle fibers and blood vessels, and the paniced breathing of a stuck dying man watching blood come out of places it shouldn't. These things that all humans can imagine. Humans generally fear extreme pain more than death. A big blade means lots of pain. Just packing that 1.5lb piece of steel can convey that message. That has to psychologically touch the enemy deep in the primal parts of his human brain where millions of years ago animals long in tooth and claw were to be feared and avoided as dangerous monsters.
In other words, sneak the sucker over there and scare the poopie out of the bastids:D Besides, we all know how useful a khuk is going to be when the SHTF.
Norm, that's an awesome offer on your part. If it comes to that and you want to split the bill or something, lemme know. I'd be happy to help get Bill squared up with a new khuk. God knows he's doing a job that many of us would not want. Bill, Thank You for what you are doing. Be proud and keep safe, good sir.

Jake
 
Actually Im expecting to U.S. troops using harsh language next time. (That preduces the special army training in marine troops, to make the weapons efficient.)
 
Last year I sold two 16 inch "modern" Wakazashi to troopies being deployed to the middle east. Over all length of each was 27 inches.

I also know that Barry Dawson sells an awful lot of his 16 inch blade Millenium Combat Swords to various military personel.

After spending 26 years as a Military Brat with my dad, it is indeed a truism that there is a "....right way, a wrong way, and the Military Way..". :cool:
 
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