Khukri training in Ohio - pics

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Kamui

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Hi Everyone.

I figured that some of you out there might be interested in these pictures from a recent camping trip. Shane (the black shirt), Tom (the gray shirt), and myself (bad in plaid) took a few unlucky oranges and decided to sharpen our skills.

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And now for the commentary:

The top picture shows the single speed slice (myself with a 15" sirupati, Tom with a 18" AK).

Next is the double speed slice with the sirupati.

Followed by the double speed slice with the AK.

Lastly, Shane and myself unsuccessfully try to bat the orange back and forth between ourselves. All we really did was make a mess
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And that's the report from Ohio. Comments anyone?

Thanks
Dave


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Nice pix,thats exactly what i do when i get bored,I have a pear tree in the yard.

When you said Khukuri training in Ohio I was expecting to see some Bando pix hehe
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I'll gladly pay you Tuesday,for a khukuri today.
 
I use my 12" Sirupati for my anger management. =) But I use mine on any unlucky coconuts that fall from the trees in the yard. Hardest thing is trying to get the coconut to stay still. I'm trying to work up something that will hold it in place for me to stalk it and hunt it down like the evil plant that it is.

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You want me to give him a fair fight? Hah! If you ain't cheatin' then you ain't tryin'
 
of course, I'm showing the WRONG thing to do...

That would be: swinging a 3lb 18"AK downward towards my leg.

thank God luck prevails when intelligence is taking a coffee break.

A Sher made AK is not the weapon for slicing oranges in mid-air. Watermelons, maybe
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Dave --- I guess you need a 18" Kumar Kobra --- maybe you can execute a triple speed slice!

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I am surprised you came away with all your apendages, there are numerous safty violations, wrong, stance, left hand hanging down, over swinging. This is definatly not a Bando event.
 
If anyone has an 18" Kobra that they'd like to donate
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, I'd be willing to figure out a triple speed slice and get photos. Any volunteers ??

As far as the safety issues, the left hand hanging down has been noted already by the offending party if you read the earlier posts (if you notice my left arm is tight to my body
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Just for kicks, what is the "right" stance to execute a slash with a knife. Given a 1 or 9 line slash for example.

As far as overswinging, trying to speed slice with a 3 lb knife is a safety violation in and of itself. If your going to try though, you are better off with a controlled follow through rather than an abrupt stop of such a huge piece of metal. You'll pull a torque something badly if you try to fight the natural follow through of the body using such a large blade. I agree entirely that a smaller knife (12" bowie or less) should be MUCH more controlled. The weight of the Khuk is just far too much.

Dave

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"trying to speed slice with a 3 lb knife is a safety violation"

That pretty much says it all but most of us have pushed limits one way or another, either out of necessity or to have some fun.

Bottom line is nobody got hurt and they had some fun. Be careful, tho!
 
Makes me cringe to see the numerous opportunities to inflict some self damage or inadvertent audience participation...

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Harry
 
"inadvertent audience participation", LOL, Now that was well said! If I get time later I'll post an off topic "when martial arts demos go wrong" story. It involves some "inadvertent audience participation".
 
Hi Uncle Bill. You have the running thread about the right and wrong ways to draw a khukuri from the scabbard. While this is important the greatest potential for injury is after it is drawn. Does anyone have any step by step illustrations of proper cutting techniques and stances, etc? It could be another valuable running thread.
 
To me, it would seem the stance for a diagonal slash (right shoulder to left hip) would be to have the left leg back. Anything else might result in a "bonk" or worse to the left leg, *especially* when combined with overzealous follow-through from either excitement or a heavy khukri.

I would agree with Dave that stopping the khuk prematurly would not be smart, but for more pragmatic reasons. I would want to keep the movement of the Khukri flowing as much as possible. With such a heavy object, you don't want to be fighting gravity and inertia. Rather, you should let gravity do the work for you. I have seen a lot of people when practicing slashes use their off-hand to stop the live hand with a slapping motion. The off hand makes firm contact with the meaty part of the forearm. This seems preferable than trying to put the brakes on your swinging hand.

Here are the "Universal Lines of Movement" as I learned them. All strikes are with the right hand:

#1 Right Shoulder to Left Hip
#2 Left Shoulder to Right Hip
#3 Right Hip to Left Hip
#4 Left Hip to Right Hip
#5,6,7 are stabs, which would be interesting with a khukri. For simplicity sake, i'll ignore them.
#8 is a circular redondo motion.
#9 Left Hip to Right Shoulder
#10 Right Hip to Left Shoulder
#11 Straight Up
#12 Straight Down

For lefties, just reverse the directions (except 11 and 12)

So we have the #1,#2,#8,and #9 lines available to us. I'd hesitate to use the 11 and 12, because if you miss, you're might hit either your head or worse, the "wedding tackle"

You could use a khuk to stab, but that kinda seems to be against it's general purpose.

FWIW, we did go out of our way to ensure that "involuntary audience participation" didn't happen.
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Of course, most people were smart enough to stay the hell out of the way. Believe it or not, we were sober.

Trying to whack oranges in mid-air with a 3 pound piece of steel is a sobering experience. I've had good experience with smaller blades, but there is little carry over. I also used to really stink at baseball. Of course, we also quickly ran out of oranges
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If I ever had to use my khukri in that sort of situation, i'd be going for much bigger targets (limbs) than smaller targets. If dismemberment is your goal, I don't think pinpoint accuracy is as important.
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I would love to hear from any kali/escrima practitioners on their theories as well. The blade is not something I'm an expert in, I'm just trying to soak up as much as I can.

Tom
 
Kinda hard to make a comment on just the pics.

I'd bend my front knee a little bit. In the first pic, your friend shouldn't be bent over to far.

You're just going to have to provide video for us.
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What's awefully (spelled that way on purpose) scary is when you lose one out of your hand.
Khukuris are like chain saws better left alone when tired!
I have found that I have a lot more trouble hanging on to one of the fatter handles which ahas led me to refashion a couple with more on the list to do so.

Doing the above actions with one of the fatter handles could definitely lead to an accident. And yet all you young strong guys can still hang onto things better than us old *arts.
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I go along with Ucle Bill. Have fun ,but be Careful!!


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