Khukuri Training Ground

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As I am sure all of you have seen in the news (or had the pleasure to experience), Hurricane Irene did a number on a few spots up the Eastern Seaboard. I was fortunate enough to only lose power for about a day and a half, and had minimal roof damage. Several trees went down in the area, with one of them (red oak) being right in my back yard. As much as this is a pain to have to deal with, it gave me a good excuse to go out and chop away until my heart was content.

This is the path I cleared through the tree to get to the other side of the yard. I felt like I was harkening back to the trailblazing days, for the few minutes it took me to clear the branches. I don't have a before picture, but you could not see through to the other side before I started.
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The two khuks I used were a 32 oz, 18" GRS by Bhakta and a 32oz, 18" M-43 by Tirtha. I started clearing branches from the propane tank and off the windows. Both knives were cutting right through branches up to 1" thick in one swing, and sometimes larger. It was good practice for me going between the different khuks because they seemed to prefer different cutting angles. The GRS was slightly off-set, whereas the M-43 really liked more of a 45 degree angle strike. Both blades kept up throughout the morning. Throughout the day I actually preferred the GRS.

Below you can see where I was cutting the branches down.
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This is a branch that was probably 5" in diameter, (below the cut you can see a smaller branch I lopped off in one swing). This one turned out to be a bit much for the GRS.
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This happened about an hour into the morning. The two chips are 5/8" and 3/8" long, and about 1/8" deep. Up until that point, it had some rolled edges. The smaller chip toward the tip happened first, and I didn't think too much of it. About 15 minutes later, the bigger chip happened. The M-43 also took its turn with the branch, and other than a few very tiny dings the blade held up great. I have already discussed them with Auntie Yangdu.

Here is the pile I finished with (for the most part, some of the bigger branches I didn't feel like moving again)
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Overall, I was very pleased with both knives. A friend came over and helped at one point, and he also liked wielding them. I also got to show them off to the neighbors who were using small hand saws (and taking a lot longer) on their branches. I probably spend a total of about 3 hours giving them a workout, and beyond those chips they both seemed to just laugh at what I gave them. Even for the bigger branches they worked better than the hatchet, ax, and hand saw I had. I can't wait to get a few more to try them out as well, because there is still a decent amount of work to be done (other trees not shown).

To sum up, I feel everyone should have a hurricane knock a tree down so they can get to know their khukuris and get some good practice.;)
 
It seems like we've been seeing more of these larger chips lately. I wonder what Bura would have to say about it.
 
Funny you should mention this because my AK Bowie had the same problem. The very first time I used it two big chips came out in a similar spot as on the OP's khuk.
 
I have to be honest.....

All these pictures of chipped knives lately have me a little worried about using my HI Khukuri's. I thought they were supposed to be bomb proof.

Will these be replaced? How does HI handle this?
 
I have to be honest.....

All these pictures of chipped knives lately have me a little worried about using my HI Khukuri's. I thought they were supposed to be bomb proof.

Will these be replaced? How does HI handle this?

Not to worry, Auntie is leaving for Nepal in a couple weeks to address this issue and some other things.
It is a warrantable issue and will be replaced.
 
The two khuks I used were a 32 oz, 18" GRS by Bhakta and a 32oz, 18" M-43 by Tirtha. I started clearing branches from the propane tank and off the windows. Both knives were cutting right through branches up to 1" thick in one swing, and sometimes larger. It was good practice for me going between the different khuks because they seemed to prefer different cutting angles. The GRS was slightly off-set, whereas the M-43 really liked more of a 45 degree angle strike. Both blades kept up throughout the morning. Throughout the day I actually preferred the GRS.

Can you elaborate on this? What was it that you prefered about the GRS? The handle, comfort, effieciency, bite into the wood, weight?

Thanks...
 
Boywondered, very cool post. Sorry you were hit by Irene and had the chips, but glad you got some khuk action:) IIRC, the Ganga Ram is designed as a chopper. The chips are worrysome, but Auntie's excellent products and incredible shipping speed are only outdone by her top notch customer service. She'll make sure you're satisfied. Hopefully, they can get the kinks worked out. I'm guessing it's just a little too much hardening. I'm glad to hear Tirtha seems to have it down. I'm happy with my Tirtha's for sure. Thanks again for the post and I hope you get things back to normal soon. BTW, you realize that now you'll be known as the "khukuri guy" around the neighborhood right;)? Take care.
 
FWIW, I just recently picked up an M-43 here. I have had it out once so far and used it on some dead, VERY hard, mesquite and had NO chipping or rolling issue with it whatsoever. I may try to get her out again this weekend for round 2, but my sense is that the chipping issue may be an intermittent, sporadic, and rare problem. Especially given that it is an issue covered under warranty assuming normal usage, I will not be hesitant at all in getting another HI blade when the right one pops up.
 
Tenbrook - I wouldn't be worried, if I were you. I used my other khuk on the same branches on the same tree and it barely shows any wear and is still sharp. Like Karda said, chips like this are warrantied, and I spoke to Yandgu about it before I posted. The chips aren't going to keep me from getting another one. I see it as a random event.

on_the_edge -That is pretty much how my M-43 was before this weekend, and it pulled through like a champ and is still fairly sharp.

jdk1 - I am definitely impressed with the customer service. I explained and showed what happened, and it was pretty straight forward. I don't mind being referred to as the "Khukuri Guy". It is much better than what some of my neighbors are called...

shortwinger -

I found it interesting with them both being the same weight that they didn't cut in the same manner. Because it was a larger tree, most of the branches that I was concerned about clearing were in the 4-6" diameter range. I found the GRS to take more of a bite out of the bigger branches, and swinging the M-43 in the same manner usually caused it to roll in my hand or go in a about 1/4"-1/2" and stop. The GRS would go in almost 2" per swing and overall would take more of a bite out of the wood.

It wasn't until I turned the M-43 near flat (palm up with more of a sideways swing, holding the knife belly down then twisting my wrist about 2/3 of the way to the right), and stuck with branches below 1-1 1/2" did the M-43 outperform the GRS. I have several branches where it went straight through and I didn't even feel an impact. It was definitely more of a long slicing angle. I have two pictures below to kind of show a comparison.

This was the GRS, you can see my first two cuts on either side, each one went about half way through the 4" branch, and the next swing the branch broke.
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Here is the M-43 on a 1.5" branch. One cut, straight through with no resistance.
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For long term use, I preferred the handle of the GRS. Part of this I think is because I shaved it down a bit, made it more oval instead of round, and repositioned the ring in the handle right after I got it. I haven't had a chance to do that on the M-43, and because of this it is a touch big for my hand and I can't get the kind of grip I would really like to have. I also found that the M-43 was a bit harder on the palm of my hand, with the buttcap sometimes digging into my hand.

When I tried to clear the smaller branches with the GRS, half the time it would cut about half way in and bounce out. It was more effective cutting into where the branch came out of the tree where there was less chance for the branch to move or flex.

It seemed more of an issue of using the right tool for the right job. The GRS is definitely better suited as a heavy chopper, and does wonders on larger branches and logs. I found the M-43 is more apt for smaller jobs probably in the 1-2" range, even though it weighted just as much as the GRS at 32 oz. If I were to take these camping, I would probably use the M-43 as my backpack knife and the GRS as the in-camp work horse. Since most of the time was spent on branches over 2", I found the GRS to be better suited throughout the day.
 
I have bought well over a dozen HI blades and only had this one have a problem. It happened the very first time i used it so it's obvious something slipped through QC. Not to worry, one email to Auntie was all it took. She said to send it back for a replacement, done deal. You gotta love the customer service.
 
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